Comments Thread For: Will Vergil Ortiz Jnr-Jaron Ennis happen or not?

[ShoulderRoll]

Devin Haney dared to be great and took the short end of the stick moneywise in order to get the fight he needed to advance his career. Against Kambosos.

I don’t see why Boots won’t do the same. The Vergil Ortiz fight would be huge for his legacy and name value, and it’s a fight he can win. He’s a fool if he doesn’t take 60-40 or 55-45.

[IronDanHamza]

Devin Haney dared to be great and took the short end of the stick moneywise in order to get the fight he needed to advance his career. Against Kambosos.

I don’t see why Boots won’t do the same. The Vergil Ortiz fight would be huge for his legacy and name value, and it’s a fight he can win. He’s a fool if he doesn’t take 60-40 or 55-45.

That would be because Kambosos had all the belts. Haney took the short end to get all the belts, vs a fighter he was a heavy favourite against. Anybody would do that.

Totally different to this situation here whereby Ortiz has zero belts, and has never even had one.

[Oregonian]

Something tells me Ennis camp would be more afraid to make this happen than the other way around. Not saying Boots is scared of Ortiz, more so his promoter and in trying to guide him towards a path where he can make really good money for awhile. If Ennis faces Ortiz and loses or worse, gets KO'd, his stock and all the build up of him drops tremendously. It seems like a very risky fight more so for Ennis.

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What if Ortiz agrees to face Boots and gets destroyed, what happens to his stock?

[Theshotyoudontsee]

That would be because Kambosos had all the belts. Haney took the short end to get all the belts, vs a fighter he was a heavy favourite against. Anybody would do that.

Totally different to this situation here whereby Ortiz has zero belts, and has never even had one.

Except Boots is universally seen as a hypejob who has fought no one at 28 going on 29. Ortiz was out for over a year and he has beaten some quality fighters. And Boots turned down a chance at Ortiz already. Boots just beat another awful fighter.

Boots is the guy that gets touted as the second coming of SRR by his small fanbase and they swear he is the most skilled fighter going and that he will destroy everyone. If he is really that good then why wouldn't he take an easy win at 55/45 against Virgil to majorly boost his record? He makes more at 55/45 against Virgil than another no hoper. At this point Boots career is a complete mystery to everyone. He has made it to almost 30 with no signature wins, email belts and beating bad belt holders. Turning Ortiz and Bud down. While somehow having the hype of being called elite.

All this hype on Boots. He should be calling publically for the fight right now, saying he wants the best. Instead Ortiz is the one saying let's go, I want this fight. If Boots really wants it, he can make it.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

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What if Ortiz agrees to face Boots and gets destroyed, what happens to his stock?

Ortiz wants to face Ennis, he is calling for it openly. Where is Ennis since he went to the Lubin fight and acted nervous?

I can guarantee you Ortiz will take 50/50 and tell Oscar to get it done. Where the hell is Ennis? Why isn't he calling for it publically???? Makes no sense.

[Oregonian]

Devin Haney dared to be great and took the short end of the stick moneywise in order to get the fight he needed to advance his career. Against Kambosos.

I don’t see why Boots won’t do the same. The Vergil Ortiz fight would be huge for his legacy and name value, and it’s a fight he can win. He’s a fool if he doesn’t take 60-40 or 55-45.

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“Dared to be great” against Kambosos!!! You think Kambosos was a great fighter.
Also, there are 4 belt holders that Boots can fight for and use them as leverage because clearly Ortiz has no intention to fight for a title.
Haney had no ZERO leverage or negotiating power against the Australian star and that’s why he went to Australia. Ortiz is not a bigger star than Boots.

[IronDanHamza]

Except Boots is universally seen as a hypejob who has fought no one at 28 going on 29. Ortiz was out for over a year and he has beaten some quality fighters. And Boots turned down a chance at Ortiz already. Boots just beat another awful fighter.

Boots is the guy that gets touted as the second coming of SRR by his small fanbase and they swear he is the most skilled fighter going and that he will destroy everyone. If he is really that good then why wouldn't he take an easy win at 55/45 against Virgil to majorly boost his record? He makes more at 55/45 against Virgil than another no hoper. At this point Boots career is a complete mystery to everyone. He has made it to almost 30 with no signature wins, email belts and beating bad belt holders. Turning Ortiz and Bud down. While somehow having the hype of being called elite.

All this hype on Boots. He should be calling publically for the fight right now, saying he wants the best. Instead Ortiz is the one saying let's go, I want this fight. If Boots really wants it, he can make it.

Yeah, but, he's not though, is he? He's not universally seen as a hype job. That's just not true.

I'm not a big fan of Ennis, I think he's got a lot of work still needed to do.

You're saying Boots is the one saying "lets go" but he literally got in the ring after his last fight and did a face off. I think it's quite obvious at this point the fight Boots wants is Ortiz. And I'm sure Ortiz would take Boots as well. It's Oscar that seems to be messing it up.

Regardless, it's irrelevant. The Haney situation with Kambosos and this situation with Boots and Ortiz are polar opposites.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

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“Dared to be great” against Kambosos!!! You think Kambosos was a great fighter.
Also, there are 4 belt holders that Boots can fight for and use them as leverage because clearly Ortiz has no intention to fight for a title.
Haney had no ZERO leverage or negotiating power against the Australian star and that’s why he went to Australia. Ortiz is not a bigger star than Boots.

Neither Ortiz nor Boots are huge names. Ortiz has a better resume and he brings Mexican fans to a PPV. 55/45 is fair and we all know it.

[IronDanHamza]

Neither Ortiz nor Boots are huge names. Ortiz has a better resume and he brings Mexican fans to a PPV. 55/45 is fair and we all know it.

Ortiz has never even been on PPV so you don't know what the brings to a PPV.

Has Ortiz ever done 1 million+ at the gate? I don't know the answer to that.

I know Boots did over 1 million at the gate vs Avanesayan.

I'm not sure but as far as I can recall, Boots has done more on the gate than Ortiz has.

It's a 50-50 split fight.

[Jayallday9]

I bet Oscar, who is great at promoting his fighters, sat down with Ortiz and team and said "look, I love you little bro, but you are equivalent to a Namek and probably not even Piccolo just a regular Namek and your trying to face a Super Saiyan who is going to hurt you so please stop!! Look how far I took the limited Mungia until cashing out on a Canelo payday!! Please don't fight Ennis right now bro!!" Now I know Ortiz is a warrior who will take the fight but please believe Oscar knows best when it comes to his fighters.