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Key Aspects of Kellerman's View:- Defense of Pacquiao's Injury: Kellerman strongly defended Pacquiao, stating he fought with a torn rotator cuff and that the situation (a last-minute clerical issue preventing a necessary injection) was a dilemma, not a deliberate deception
- Mayweather's Skill vs. Pacquiao's Heart: He acknowledged Mayweather's defensive mastery and control (calling him the better ring general) but saw the fight's outcome as disappointing because Pacquiao couldn't fully perform due to his injury
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Pac's resume is overrated -
"The idea that Manny Pacquiao's resume is overrated is a point of significant debate within the boxing community, with some citing his extraordinary multi-divisional success while others highlight specific opponent choices and career timing. -
Arguments that the Resume is Overrated
Those who argue Pacquiao's resume is overrated often point to the following issues:- Opponent Timing: Critics suggest that some of his most high-profile wins came against opponents who were past their prime, such as Oscar De La Hoya, who struggled to make weight for their fight.
- Weight Advantages: There are claims that Pacquiao's movement through weight classes was sometimes leveraged for an advantage, with opponents being weight-drained or fighting at catchweights, and his teenage boxing exploits used to artificially enhance his record.
- Controversial Losses/Draws: Detractors highlight his draw and subsequent knockout loss to Juan Manuel Márquez, and a controversial decision win against Jeff Horn, as evidence that he struggled against elite, in-prime competition.
- Floyd Mayweather Fight: The consensus that he lost definitively to Floyd Mayweather Jr. is often used in comparisons, with some arguing he could never have beaten Mayweather at any stage of their careers.
- PED Accusations: Though he never tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs), the mere accusation from the Mayweather camp created a persistent narrative for some critics that his power gain across weight classes was unnatural.
Conversely, many boxing analysts and fans consider Pacquiao's resume to be among the greatest of all time for the following reasons:- Historical Achievements: He is the only boxer in history to win twelve major world titles across an unprecedented eight different weight divisions, a feat considered by many to be unmatched. He also held titles in four different decades.
- Quality of Opposition: Proponents emphasize that his list of defeated opponents includes multiple Hall of Famers and elite fighters of his era, such as Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, Miguel Cotto, and Shane Mosley.
- Willingness to Challenge: Unlike some of his contemporaries, Pacquiao was known for consistently seeking out tough challenges and moving up in weight to fight bigger men, rather than avoiding them.
- Pound-for-Pound Rankings: Major boxing figures and publications have consistently ranked him as one of the greatest pound-for-pound fighters in history, second only to Sugar Ray Robinson according to some analysts like Max Kellerman.
Shot Mosley
Shopworn Erik and Marco
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Willingness to challenge badasses -
Well let's take a gander (excluding the aforementioned names);
Diaz
Hatton
Clottey
Baby Margarito
Shot Margarito
Shot Broner
Alcherry
Dead La Hoya
Lucas
Vargas
Desert Breeze 3x
JMM 4x ( !!!!)
HORN (CPGW !!!)
Cherrios
Ugas (whatever happened to this world-beater................)
Sometime (FINALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Where in the fck are the "tough" challenges ?!?!?!?
FOH !!!
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They don’t have comparable resumes to Floyd that is why I would assume when ATGs are ranked by experts, historians , etc., their names don’t appear as high up as Floyd’s.
Reminder- you made a post that laid out a list of boxers you felt Floyd couldn’t possibly defeat but if he did he would be an ATG.
When he did defeat all of them you deleted the post instead of giving him credit and admitting you wrong.
Maybe these voters created the same list you did but just gave Floyd proper credit for achieving what they thought he couldn’t while you acted like an immature Manny ball gurgler.
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