Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder: Oleksandr Usyk wants me because he thinks I?ve declined

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  • j0zef
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    #31
    Yeah. don't think anyone will ever be able to accuse Usyk of picking on declining fighters. He's older than all the elites he's faced, and with significantly more mileage through the amateurs.

    He wants Wilder because Wilder still has a name.

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    • Toffee
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      #32
      Originally posted by Monty Fisto
      Anyway, if Usyk thinks Wilder has declined, he is not alone. Anyone with working eyes and an ounce of judgement also thinks Wilder has declined.
      I'm not convinced he's declined as much as made out.

      That he looks worse against top 10 fighters than he did against binmen isn't surefire proof of decline.

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        #33
        Originally posted by j0zef
        Yeah. don't think anyone will ever be able to accuse Usyk of picking on declining fighters. He's older than all the elites he's faced, and with significantly more mileage through the amateurs.

        He wants Wilder because Wilder still has a name.
        It's probably the last scalp on the list, as far as the big "three" well, was.

        Always a chance a rocket lands...





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        • Monty Fisto
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          #34
          Originally posted by Toffee

          I'm not convinced he's declined as much as made out.

          That he looks worse against top 10 fighters than he did against binmen isn't surefire proof of decline.
          He's declined because against Fury -- who is not a binman -- he was still able to let go with the power. That just wasn't there against Zhang or Parker.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Monty Fisto

            He's declined because against Fury -- who is not a binman -- he was still able to let go with the power. That just wasn't there against Zhang or Parker.
            He fight to of the worst versions of Fury... comeback Fury and untrained Fury.

            In the middle fight he wasn't able to let go with the power either. He barely landed a punch.

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            • Monty Fisto
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              #36
              Originally posted by Toffee

              He fight to of the worst versions of Fury... comeback Fury and untrained Fury.

              In the middle fight he wasn't able to let go with the power either. He barely landed a punch.
              All true, but this does not change my position or the vailidity of what I wrote. Fury is not a binman. In three fights, Fury destroyed Wilder in the middle one. Though he won well ultimately in the final fight, he was not untroubled by Wilder in the bookend matches. Since then Wilder has looked a LOT worse. Hence my contention that there is clear evidence of decline in Wilder the last three to four years.

              And this is 100% what we would expect to see from any fighter over the period of their late 30s into their early 40s. If you flip it on its head, if you are arguing he is no worse at 40 than he was in his early 30s, this is a rather exceptional claim for which I see zero evidence.

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              • JakeTheBoxer
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                #37
                Usyk is a coward. He loses ti Kabayel and he knows it.

                Fughting Wilder brings no points now.
                Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 01-12-2026, 02:49 PM.

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