Canelo is not an all time great fighter

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  • Oracle01
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    #311
    Originally posted by famicommander

    He has 9 wins over active world titlists in the division he beat them in at the time of the fight.

    How many guys in boxing have taken staps off of 9 reigning world titlists?

    No idea. What matters is how good they were. Smith brothers and BJS were C level UK bums.

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      #312
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

      - - Canelo makes mo $$$ than U lifetime just for picking up the phone to call his investment adviser.

      He don't fraternize with two bit addled lads who need help tying their shoes...
      So he is a great fighter, because he made a lot of money?

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        #313
        Originally posted by dan_cov


        That was just a random guess/figure off the top of my head but a quick look I'd put him quite a bit higher, regardless 70th still qualifies as an ATG.
        The modern sport has well over a Centuries history and hundreds of thousands if not millions of competitors, to be 70th overall is some doing.

        He's probably more in the 40-50 range.
        No he ain't

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          #314
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza

          Can you name 70 fighters with better resumes than Canelo?
          Off the top of my head, in not a particular order, just better than Saul.

          SRR
          SRL
          Ali
          Sanchez
          Zarate
          Arguello
          Mantequilla Napoles
          Tommy Hearns
          Marvin Hagler
          Manny Pacquio
          Floyd Mayweather
          Luis Rodriguez
          Emily Griffith
          henry armstrong
          Kid Chocolate
          Benny Leonard
          Kid Gavilan
          Ruben Olivares
          Alexis Arguello
          Larry Holmes
          Joe Frazier
          George Foreman
          Joe Louis
          Jack Dempsey
          Gene Tunney
          Bob Fitzimons
          Al Brown
          Wilfredo Gomez
          Bernie Briscoe
          JCChavez
          Roberto Duran
          Calzaghe
          Flash Elorde
          Carmen Basilio
          Rocky Graziano
          Michael carbajal
          Chiquita Gonzalez
          erik Morales
          m.A. Barrera
          JM Marquez
          Azumah Nelson
          Jeff Fenech
          Evander Holyfield
          Oscar dela Hoya
          Vitali K
          Vladimir K
          Ezzard Charles
          Archie Moore
          Andre ward
          Whittaker
          lennox lewis
          mike tyzon
          Sandy Sadler
          Ike Williams
          Pepp
          Marciano
          Roy Jones
          Winky Wright
          Carlos Monzon
          Niccolino Locche
          Billy Conn
          Cervantes
          Miguel Canto
          Finito Lopez
          Nigel Benn
          Bob Foster
          Saad Muhamed
          Eder Jofre
          Michael Nunn
          Kostya Tszyu
          quawi
          GGG---73









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          • IronDanHamza
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            #315
            Originally posted by garfios
            Off the top of my head, in not a particular order, just better than Saul.

            SRR
            SRL
            Ali
            Sanchez
            Zarate
            Arguello
            Mantequilla Napoles
            Tommy Hearns
            Marvin Hagler
            Manny Pacquio
            Floyd Mayweather
            Luis Rodriguez
            Emily Griffith
            henry armstrong
            Kid Chocolate
            Benny Leonard
            Kid Gavilan
            Ruben Olivares
            Alexis Arguello
            Larry Holmes
            Joe Frazier
            George Foreman
            Joe Louis
            Jack Dempsey
            Gene Tunney
            Bob Fitzimons
            Al Brown
            Wilfredo Gomez
            Bernie Briscoe
            JCChavez
            Roberto Duran
            Calzaghe
            Flash Elorde
            Carmen Basilio
            Rocky Graziano
            Michael carbajal
            Chiquita Gonzalez
            erik Morales
            m.A. Barrera
            JM Marquez
            Azumah Nelson
            Jeff Fenech
            Evander Holyfield
            Oscar dela Hoya
            Vitali K
            Vladimir K
            Ezzard Charles
            Archie Moore
            Andre ward
            Whittaker
            lennox lewis
            mike tyzon
            Sandy Sadler
            Ike Williams
            Pepp
            Marciano
            Roy Jones
            Winky Wright
            Carlos Monzon
            Niccolino Locche
            Billy Conn
            Cervantes
            Miguel Canto
            Finito Lopez
            Nigel Benn
            Bob Foster
            Saad Muhamed
            Eder Jofre
            Michael Nunn
            Kostya Tszyu
            quawi
            GGG---73








            Some of those inclusions are just comical

            Bennie Briscoe? Kosta Tszyu? Micheal Nunn?

            Stop it.

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              #316
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza

              Some of those inclusions are just comical

              Bennie Briscoe? Kosta Tszyu? Micheal Nunn?

              Stop it.
              Michael Nunn would school Canelo

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                #317
                Originally posted by djtmal

                Michael Nunn would school Canelo
                His resume isn’t even in the same stratosphere as Canelo’s.

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                  #318
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  Some of those inclusions are just comical

                  Bennie Briscoe? Kosta Tszyu? Micheal Nunn?

                  Stop it.
                  That was off the top of my head, Nun, Briscoe and Tszyu never ducked nobody, but I'm sure we can find another 20 guys easily.

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                    #319
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                    His resume isn’t even in the same stratosphere as Canelo’s.
                    What resume? You most be an idiot to believe canelo's resume is good. Full of nobodies, old past their prime boxers and undersized, and the ones you can mention beat his a$$. Stop with the worthless resume.

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                      #320
                      Originally posted by djtmal

                      Michael Nunn would school Canelo
                      He was definitely a better boxer, I think I forgot Trinidad and Benitez, not sure thought, but he went through the list and found "3" fighters out of 73 I listed, and those fought everybody

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