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  • QueensburyRules
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    #401
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    Take it with Atlas, he's the one who said Pacquaio ducked.
    - - Poor Blowhard Teddy still reeling from getting kicked out of Cus' training camp. Pac is immaculate in comparison...

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      #402
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn



      He isn’t the most successful. He is extremely successful no doubt. If he were the most successful, he might be #1 in one of these polls.
      No, i d say pac is the most succesful. Which you have as much admitted in saying if you have a win over pac that is better than anything pac did, and likely can do. So if pac beats the best in 10 divisions above his original weight class, you beating pac is the pinnacle. Which is basically you saying pac s achievements is so good a win over pac is akin to the holy grail, like getting selfie with jesus.
      BtW, having said that I don't agree with you and I doubt anyone would in you saying jmm, or bradley or horn beating pac is better than pac s best win. Because it really means you are diminishing pac s achievements and saying jm m and bradley and horn beat pac so could likely do everything pac did if they wanted to? Reality is pac had off night with jmm, bradley and horn or was robbed. If maidana got decision over floyd, the first thing you'd think wouldn't be that win over floyd is better than any of Floyd's wins, but rather floyd mustve had off night

      Sure you can compare jmm, floyds, Bradley's and horns and singsuraat win over pac with each other, or compare with turpins win over srr that is how you compare!. Is this too deep for you?
      But in reality you are just allowing floyd take as little risks as possible, using catch weights, fighting in home country, choose gloves be as cautious as humanly possible but as long as he has win over pac that's all that matters, your condoning laziness?
      Last edited by hugh grant; 01-01-2026, 09:02 AM.

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      • djtmal
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        #403
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn



        Floyd still #1.

        .
        Not according to Max Kellerman:

        Max Kellerman All Time P4P List

        Today, 02:38 PM
        1. Sugar Ray Robinson
        2. Manny Pacquiao
        3. Henry Armstrong
        4. Muhammad Ali
        5. Harry Greb
        6. Sam Langford
        7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
        8. Roberto Duran
        9. Pernell Whitaker
        10. Terrance Crawford

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          #404
          Originally posted by djtmal

          Not according to Max Kellerman:

          Max Kellerman All Time P4P List

          Today, 02:38 PM
          1. Sugar Ray Robinson
          2. Manny Pacquiao
          3. Henry Armstrong
          4. Muhammad Ali
          5. Harry Greb
          6. Sam Langford
          7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
          8. Roberto Duran
          9. Pernell Whitaker
          10. Terrance Crawford
          No link. Not real. But only one opinion. When grouped with other opinions, Floyd comes out #1.

          Checked list again.

          Floyd still#1.

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            #405
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            No link. Not real.
            Yes it is

            Read it and cry

            Max Kellerman All Time P4P List

            Today, 02:38 PM
            1. Sugar Ray Robinson
            2. Manny Pacquiao
            3. Henry Armstrong
            4. Muhammad Ali
            5. Harry Greb
            6. Sam Langford
            7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
            8. Roberto Duran
            9. Pernell Whitaker
            10. Terrance Crawford

            He also said:

            "Pacquiao should be higher than Mayweather on the P4P list. He fought great fighters. He never ducked anybody."

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              #406
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              But only one opinion.
              It's more than that

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                #407
                Originally posted by djtmal

                Yes it is

                Read it and cry

                Max Kellerman All Time P4P List

                Today, 02:38 PM
                1. Sugar Ray Robinson
                2. Manny Pacquiao
                3. Henry Armstrong
                4. Muhammad Ali
                5. Harry Greb
                6. Sam Langford
                7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                8. Roberto Duran
                9. Pernell Whitaker
                10. Terrance Crawford

                He also said:

                "Pacquiao should be higher than Mayweather on the P4P list. He fought great fighters. He never ducked anybody."
                Show the link.

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                  #408
                  Originally posted by djtmal

                  It's more than that
                  You can’t be so dumb that you think Max has more than one opinion.

                  Its just one opinion and its an outlier given that when his colleagues, contemporaries and peers vote Floyd comes out ahead every time.

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                    #409
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn



                    Its just one opinion and its an outlier.

                    There's more lists that have Manny ahead

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                      #410
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      Post it or you’re lying. Same standard you have.

                      We aren’t discussing my opinion. We’re discussing this poll. I didn’t vote in this poll. So that excuse will not fly.

                      Not some. Almost all. I haven’t seen one with Manny ahead.

                      Of course they used independent thought. They based their opinion on the resumes. Not idol worship and nut gurgling like you.

                      That is your opinion. It is not a fact. What is a fact is so far every poll of the best boxers this century has Floyd above Manny.

                      He isn’t the most successful. He is extremely successful no doubt. If he were the most successful, he might be #1 in one of these polls.
                      - - Manny blasted through all the Ring Rating System with records that will never be broken because there will never be another Manny. Made l'l floydy and he crack Daddy and Oscar pay him damages for slander and take out a entire page of local newspaper with a public apology for slandering Manny.

                      Would've sued U but all U got is peanuts for brain$.

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