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    #141
    Originally posted by djtmal

    Mannys speed and angles in his prime with the combinations is something Floyd did not want to deal with

    Too bad Floyd was too scared to fight Manny in his prime.
    Even in his prime Manny made those same mistakes I discussed earlier.

    I don’t think they’d be that difficult to handle for Floyd. Morales beat Manny by outboxing him and he wasn’t as fast, athletic, smart or sharp as Floyd. He also didn’t have the length or movement.

    This was 130 when Manny was prime. Floyd was already at 140. Floyd with all his speed and power and a 10 lb weight advantage massacres Manny.

    You can’t make a rational argument that Floyd loses to manny at this point.

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    • djtmal
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      #142
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      Even in his prime Manny made those same mistakes I discussed earlier.

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      In Floyd's prime he was more aggressive so they would offset, or go into a defensive shell and lose rounds all night

      But Floyd knew that thats why he waited until Manny lost steps

      Manny was nonstop side to side, in and out combinations for 12 rounds.

      Floyd didn't want that
      Last edited by djtmal; 12-17-2025, 12:01 PM.

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        #143
        Originally posted by djtmal

        Yes it does he didn't do that against the best guys at their best
        He wasn’t at his best either. So it makes no difference.

        You can’t make his resume worse because it is superior to Manny’s. That is why Floyd wins all these polls.

        Floyd fought these dudes when they agreed to fight. He beat them.

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          #144
          Originally posted by djtmal

          In Floyd's prime he was more aggressive so they would offset, or go into a defensive shell and lose rounds all night

          But Floyd knew that thats why he waited until Manny lost steps
          No they wouldn’t offset. Floyd had an almost 6 in reach advantage. He could fight on the outside and jab all day whenever Manny tried to throw.

          Again, in 2005 Floyd was knocking guys out still. Manny not only lost to a weaker boxer in Morales, Bob kept him away from Raheem, who had just destroyed Morales, because he could box and move and had a reach advantage over Manny.

          It’s like you think every fighter but Manny had his opponents picked by the matchmaker. Manny did too.

          He was matched in a way that benefited his career and his promoter’s earnings, same as every boxer that makes money.
          Last edited by The Big Dunn; 12-17-2025, 12:05 PM.

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            #145
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            He wasn’t at his best either.
            Right so you got two guys not at their best and you making a big deal of it

            Oh I forgot who I am talking to a Floyd boy who is content with bare minimum mediocrity

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              #146
              Originally posted by djtmal

              Right so you got two guys not at their best and you making a big deal of it

              Oh I forgot who I am talking to a Floyd boy who is content with bare minimum mediocrity
              No. You got guys that waited to fight Floyd and you’re holding it against Floyd because you’re mad he finished ahead of Manny in this poll and every other one. So you are doing whatever you can to lessen his resume.

              Very weak of you but typical for a Manny nut gobbler.

              If Floyd’s resume is mediocrity and he is ranked ahead of Manny in all these polls, Manny’s resume must be even more mediocre.

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                #147
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                No. You got guys that waited to fight Floyd.
                That is irrelevant

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by djtmal

                  That is irrelevant
                  No it isn’t. It shows just how good Floyd was.

                  They didn’t want to risk losing to him until it was financially beneficial.

                  Bottom line is Floyd won this poll and all others.

                  I am waiting for a link to the wbc poll. ChatGPT says it doesn’t exist. But maybe it does.
                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 12-17-2025, 12:30 PM.

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    No it isn’t. It shows just how good Floyd was.

                    They didn’t want to risk losing to him until .
                    Floyd was scared

                    He was good

                    Margarito was good

                    Paul Williams was good

                    Keith Thurman was good

                    Amir Khan was good

                    Winky Wright was good

                    Not to mention the out of prime guys like Manny Cotto and Shane

                    but Floyd was too scared to make fights with these guys so we could see how good he really was.

                    Floyd was in the ww division with all of these guys yet managed to not fight them or make the fight when the due date was far passed
                    Last edited by djtmal; 12-17-2025, 12:56 PM.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by djtmal

                      Floyd was scared

                      He was good

                      Margarito was good

                      Paul Williams was good

                      Keith Thurman was good

                      Amir Khan was good

                      Winky Wright was good

                      Not to mention the out of prime guys like Manny Cotto and Shane

                      but Floyd was too scared to make fights with these guys so we could see how good he really was.
                      prime Bradley, young Shane, Kostya ... probably still forgot a bunch.

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