Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Why does Devin Haney take more criticism than Ryan Garcia and Conor Benn?

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They hate Floyd
They hate Tank
They had Devin
They hate Shakur
They hate Bud
They hate Claressa Shields
They hate Boots Ennis
They hate Wilder

"They" pretty much hate every successful current Black American fighter.

The only Black American fighters they like fought a long ass time ago, so they can say, "I liked Muhammad Ali" or something like that or foreigners.

Once "they" started defending a drug cheat like Ryan Garcia with 60x the allowed amount of Ostarine in his system, while also blowing weight, I knew what time it was.

Bud is my favorite active fighter. Like Tank, Shakur, want to like Boots and hope he fights Ortiz and shows that he is worthy of the hype.

Wilder couldn't box but his trilogy with Tyson made me respect him alot. Haney hugs and flinches and should be DQd. Women's boxing means zero to me and so I have no real opinion on Shields.

Imagine if Haney had put on a gutsy performance like Mason did the other night. People would be praising him. Apparently clinching and holding constantly are attributes that you and others here see as admirable and so you have to point to Devin being disliked as "racist". When there are so many good black fighters who are exciting to watch. But if I supported fighters that aren't very good just because they are black, that would make me an actual racist.

To be non racist is to be able to like or dislike a fighter based on their styles and abilities and actions, regardless if if they are a "black American fighter".

I suppose every country has a bias towards "their guy". But to be honest, there aren't many good white fighters anyway lol. So a guy who hates black fighters I guess pulls for the hispanics or asians?

I can't imagine caring about a fighters race. I just want a fighter who is talented and goes in to stop his opponent. Crawford and Benavidez are two great examples. They are bad dudes.

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people dont understand, u had loma and haney, all the people who hate loma say hes privileged and pampered etc well it was haney who got that treatment, he got a UD with a 116-112 card in a fight i think most thought loma actually won, loma didnt get the calls on his close fights, he wasnt protected at all, haney got that & lots of others yes like andre ward, thats why people give out about them, the scorecards and results they have dont reflect reality, they reflect they were the home guys who got the protection & all they and their fans do is boast about it constantly

But Haney vs Lomachenko was a legitimately close fight that could have gone either way. It was no robbery.

Andre Ward? People are still crying about the Kovalev fight all these years later to justify their Haney hate?

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But Haney vs Lomachenko was a legitimately close fight that could have gone either way. It was no robbery.

Andre Ward? People are still crying about the Kovalev fight all these years later to justify their Haney hate?

all of these 'close fights' you are talking pretty much all or all of them go the one way, loma haney, close fight, haney gets the nod, kovalev ward close fight or not so close, ward gets the W, ggg canelo close fight, canelo gets the draw & the nod, etc etc its not hard to see

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But Haney vs Lomachenko was a legitimately close fight that could have gone either way. It was no robbery.

Andre Ward? People are still crying about the Kovalev fight all these years later to justify their Haney hate?

the ironic thing is that these fights are massive fights, for example loma missed out on undisputed at 135 over that fight, which is fair enough it was a close fight but haney got it & loma is left devastated, same with kovalev v ward who robbed his titles on a 'close fight' & then made millions on a guarantee in fight 2 with kovalev only getting a fraction of that with no guarantee etc, so i think this type of thread where bread has felt it in his fanny that haney is not getting his due whatever is just pure BS & comparing him to the likes of cryin & eggie benn is just totally nonsensical, haney gets and got the important stuff have no doubt & the rest is just pure BS really, just 'feelings' oh haney gets more bad chatter than garcia, huh really

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I am not a huge fan of Garcia. I am not a huge fan of Haney.

Garcia tested for a tiny amount that is consistent with a tainted otc supplement. He gave his supplements to the lab and two of them tested positive for trace amounts and Ostarine was not listed on the labels Ostarine is sometimes used in supps in trace amounts and not listed.

Garcia did not look any different than his previous fights. He made weight. He did not appear more muscular or show super powers. He fought like he always does. Haney got caught and beat up.

I believe Haney was bigger in the ring. And as Prograis said, Haney was huge when they fought and he accused him of IV usage.

They are all looking for advantages. Haney didn't get hurt because he Ryan was the Incredible Hulk. He thought Ryan ****** and he got caught with a hook being overconfident.

If you don’t think Garcia looked different physically and ability wise in his fight with Haney from his previous fights then you haven’t been paying attention or are in denial. He also looked very different in his very next fight. You can rationalize the quantity all you want but you don’t get a win erased and suffer a suspension for something that’s considered to be benign as you pretend it to be.