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  • djtmal
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    #321
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

    Other than Manny turning down offer after offer.
    Lol

    Maybe Floyd should have made better offers

    Floyd is his own boss until its time to be held accountable

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    • SouthpawRight
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      #322
      Originally posted by HisExcellency
      Originally posted by HisExcellency
      Also, Floyd has a habit of cherry-picking fights and only facing his most dangerous opponents after they've suffered a few losses so there's definitely a PATTERN e.g. Pacquiao, DLH, Mosley, JMM, Cotto etc.
      Re his other fights, you're DELUSIONAL if you don't think Mayweather cherry-picked his opponents and only fought them after they were old and had taken multiple losses. Evidence below:-

      DLH - 34yo & 4 losses
      Pacquiao - 36yo & 5 losses
      Mosley - 38yo & 5 losses
      JMM - 36yo & 4 losses

      Lmao if that isn't cherry-picking at it's finest then I don't know what is. Mayweather has NEVER beaten anybody in their prime (except Hatton) who he beat at Welterweight which wasn't his natural weight class.

      among their shared opps manny faced crappier versions of Oscar Ricky Shane the Oldest Juan then became famous for it rofl

      freddie turned down a Shane fight before Floyd whooped him, "You're TOO GOOD, Shane."

      manny was clapped by the Oldest Juan even with all of the advantages

      upon getting handled by Floyd manny goes on the biggest 3 year long cherry-spree ever Jessie-Jeff [and loses anyways]-Shot Lucas-AdrienLol

      manny superstardom was largely fueled by being compared to Floyd and being seen as the chosen one

      truth is Floyd was always a step ahead of manny

      manny copied and started doing exhibitions matches only after Floyd opened the floodgates to clown world matches by whooping Conor's ass

      silencing ufc fans and upholding Boxing's Honor in the process

      and Saul who manny skipped is a greater Mexican than any that manny faced

      For all of his hype manny was 10-2'd, 9-3'd when he was finally faced with a true top 10 all time Floyd

      and hof Diego was prime and in natural weight when he was MOPPED
      Last edited by SouthpawRight; 12-12-2025, 03:38 PM.

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        #323
        Originally posted by SouthpawRight
        among their shared opps manny faced crappier versions of Oscar Ricky Shane the Oldest Juan then became famous for it rofl

        freddie turned down a Shane fight before Floyd whooped him, "You're TOO GOOD, Shane."

        manny was clapped by the Oldest Juan even with all of the advantages

        upon getting handled by Floyd manny goes on the biggest 3 year long cherry-spree ever Jessie-Jeff [and loses anyways]-Shot Lucas-AdrienLol

        manny superstardom was largely fueled by being compared to Floyd and being seen as the chosen one

        truth is Floyd was always a step ahead of manny

        manny copied and started doing exhibitions matches only after Floyd opened the floodgates to clown world matches by whooping Conor's ass

        silencing ufc fans and upholding Boxing's Honor in the process

        and Saul who manny skipped is a greater Mexican than any that manny faced

        For all of his hype manny was 10-2'd, 9-3'd when he was finally faced with a true top 10 all time Floyd

        and hof Diego was prime and in natural weight when he was MOPPED
        Lmao you FORGOT to mention that among their shared opponents, Mayweather fought older, crappier versions of Cotto & JMM too.

        Let's face it, Floyd is a cherry-picker of the highest order and the fact that he only fought Pacquiao, JMM, Cotto, DLH & Mosley AFTER they were old and had suffered multiple losses is testament to this (as is the fact that he fought a green 23yo Canelo at a catchweight)

        In comparison, Pacquiao has beaten PRIME versions of Bradley, Thurman & Cotto whereas the only prime fighter Mayweather has ever beaten is Hatton.

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        • davef
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          #324
          Originally posted by HisExcellency

          Lmao you FORGOT to mention that among their shared opponents, Mayweather fought older, crappier versions of Cotto & JMM too.

          Let's face it, Floyd is a cherry-picker of the highest order and the fact that he only fought Pacquiao, JMM, Cotto, DLH & Mosley AFTER they were old and had suffered multiple losses is testament to this (as is the fact that he fought a green 23yo Canelo at a catchweight)

          In comparison, Pacquiao has beaten PRIME versions of Bradley, Thurman & Cotto whereas the only prime fighter Mayweather has ever beaten is Hatton.
          154 Cotto vs Floyd was more dangerous than a catch weight drained 145 Cotto vs Pac.. come on now lol you can't be serious?

          hell I will even give you the JMM catch weight version vs Floyd was not as dangerous as juiced to the gills 147 JMM that sent Pac to the shadow realm but Cotto? you are wrong

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            #325
            For Nash, there is something about the history and legacy of Rocky Balboa. A journeyman, taking fights on late notice, winning some, losing some, and against mostly limited opposition. No training, no motivation, just turn up and take the small paycheck to survive a few weeks. Then, when out of money, he was forced to sell his dog (which he later bought back). Due to where he was from an unexpected title shot came his way, then we saw the real Rocky. Proper camp, and gave it all in the ring.

            He lost that fight, but became a Champion shortly after, building up a stacked resume that included Apollo Creed, Mr. T, Ivan Drago, and Hulk Hogan, even coming back as an old man and giving a great account of himself vs Mason Dixon.

            Rocky was not just a boxer, (International Boxing Hall of Famer, by the way), he was the true American underdog. He showed everyone, even non-Americans like the Great Nash, what can be done when you push yourself to the limits. When you have the opportunity and the motivation, that you are so much better than you think you are. Rocky Balboa deserves all of our respect, even more so that he also doubled up as an undercover soldier, going by the name John Rambo. Nash out - His Majesty

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              #326
              Originally posted by HisExcellency

              Lmao you FORGOT to mention that among their shared opponents, Mayweather fought older, crappier versions of Cotto & JMM too.

              Let's face it, Floyd is a cherry-picker of the highest order and the fact that he only fought Pacquiao, JMM, Cotto, DLH & Mosley AFTER they were old and had suffered multiple losses is testament to this (as is the fact that he fought a green 23yo Canelo at a catchweight)

              In comparison, Pacquiao has beaten PRIME versions of Bradley, Thurman & Cotto whereas the only prime fighter Mayweather has ever beaten is Hatton.
              you understand numbers and how trends work

              they have a total of 5 shared opps

              manny faced the crappier versions most of the time at least 3 out of 5 Oscar Ricky Shane

              Thou cannot answer for Jessie-Jeff-Lucas-Adrienlol

              Floyd never had a string of opps that crappy from the time
              he became champ to the time he was still a serious boxer

              Diego is in the hall of fame. Same cannot be said of Keith

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                #327
                Originally posted by davef

                154 Cotto vs Floyd was more dangerous than a catch weight drained 145 Cotto vs Pac..
                Cotto was already shopworn vs Floyd

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                • djtmal
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                  #328
                  Originally posted by SouthpawRight

                  manny faced the crappier versions most of the time at least 3 out of 5 Oscar Ricky Shane


                  Vs Manny, Hatton was still prime with only 1 loss plus at his best weightclass 140

                  He faced the same shopworn versions of Oscar and Shane that Floyd did.

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                    #329
                    Originally posted by djtmal

                    Cotto was already shopworn vs Floyd
                    look at this oron friendly fire himself and DISCREDIT manny’s next best win

                    you think Miguel wasn’t weathered from the plaster beating

                    manny’s Miguel was still HEAVILY damaged from it

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                      #330
                      Originally posted by djtmal

                      Vs Manny, Hatton was still prime with only 1 loss plus at his best weightclass 140

                      He faced the same shopworn versions of Oscar and Shane that Floyd did.
                      same my ass

                      manny’s Oscar was drained in a division he hadn’t been at for ages

                      manny’s Shane was 39

                      In addition to Jessie-Jeff-Lucas-Adrien, manny has lesser versions of most of the shared opps

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