Stop hyping these guys at 154 its a wasteland

[dan_cov]

if boots is so good why didnt he fight bud when had multiple chances in the same weight class for years

why didnt he fight teo and beat him easy like his fans said he would do? just show up and take the cash easy work

why didnt he take the turki cash no less so it was very good to fight ortiz when that fight was on the table?

eye test me arse lol

boots eye test so far is he sees a challenge and looks the other way

I don't know truth be told I don't follow the promotion aspect, that is the promoters job and I don't care for it or how much fighters are getting paid, etc
I just want to see them fight, that's all I care for.


But why aren't these guys getting the same eye test treatment? Shouldn't most of them be scrutinised even more so?

[Smash]

I don't know truth be told I don't follow the promotion aspect, that is the promoters job and I don't care for it or how much fighters are getting paid, etc
I just want to see them fight, that's all I care for.


But why aren't these guys getting the same eye test treatment? Shouldn't most of them be scrutinised even more so?

super fan lol

lets hope eye test boots and ortiz come to agreement & the fight can be made thats all

i have my doubts but i hope im wrong

[dan_cov]

The eye test matters most.

Skills and technique and so on win fights not resumes or silly trinkets or reputation.

I've seen him since his amateur days, there are more than 3 dozen pro fights to chose from several being top 10 and I think Stanionis worst case around #3 in the world.
I see the skill, the technique and all this. I am supposed to ignore this and pick some guy who simply has a win that is perceived better that doesn't even know what a jab is or how to put more than 2 punches together? And perceived by whom exactly? Emotional fans letting their excitement overcloud their judgement? a bent ranking system?

I've said this about Ortiz for a number of years also, another that was supposedly a ducker and an eye-test fighter.
Virtually always in boxing go with your eyes and your head and what you know not by the general consensus or resumes and all this stuff that is horribly overrated and really just a safety net. With boxing we see it more and more its a if we're wrong about this guy we'll all be wrong together sort of attitude. Especially in this era as lets face it most of the belt holders and guys deemed the best or great really aren't all that at all its more they have great backing, hype and matchmaking.

[dan_cov]

super fan lol

lets hope eye test boots and ortiz come to agreement & the fight can be made thats all

i have my doubts but i hope im wrong

Agreed.
I don't follow the promotion side but I've seen a few videos now of Ortiz and his father saying Boots isn't next and his dream fight is vs Spence (God I genuinely hope not).

I don't even care who wins tbh, I think they're both fantastic and the winners will be the fans I just hope to God it gets made next.

Boxing needs this not Ortiz vs Spences corpse and Boots vs another tomato can

[dan_cov]

Not sure this will work but Ortiz promoter already asking 10m+

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/SF0KGg3.jpeg[/IMG]

[Smash]

Not sure this will work but Ortiz promoter already asking 10m+

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/SF0KGg3.jpeg[/IMG]

does he think turki is bank rolling this gig?

i wonder what turkis offer was actually for the last fight?

Could be just an opening salvo, we will know whats what when or if it gets made or not and both sides will disclose the terms & it will be up to boxing followers to decide on who they blame if it all goes south

[Smash]

are they going to do it the old fashioned way? low guarantee like maybe 3 mil each and fingers crossed with the ppv bonus

or will eddie & oscar think 'i wouldnt mind a turkey this xmas'

[SouthpawRight]

The eye test matters most.

Skills and technique and so on win fights not resumes or silly trinkets or reputation.

I've seen him since his amateur days, there are more than 3 dozen pro fights to chose from several being top 10 and I think Stanionis worst case around #3 in the world.
I see the skill, the technique and all this. I am supposed to ignore this and pick some guy who simply has a win that is perceived better that doesn't even know what a jab is or how to put more than 2 punches together? And perceived by whom exactly? Emotional fans letting their excitement overcloud their judgement? a bent ranking system?

I've said this about Ortiz for a number of years also, another that was supposedly a ducker and an eye-test fighter.
Virtually always in boxing go with your eyes and your head and what you know not by the general consensus or resumes and all this stuff that is horribly overrated and really just a safety net. With boxing we see it more and more its a if we're wrong about this guy we'll all be wrong together sort of attitude. Especially in this era as lets face it most of the belt holders and guys deemed the best or great really aren't all that at all its more they have great backing, hype and matchmaking.

Jaron-Vergil is the 154 edition of TBud-Saul but with a ko ending

the eye test bbc boxer with lacking opposition beats the Mexican warrior who has taken on all comers

Vergil has been vulnerable getting knocked down 3 times by Bohachuk

[HisExcellency]

why troll Diego so much

he’s 24 with plenty of room to grow

YEARS away from his prime

High level Mexicans seldom get ko’d!

Diego will be at least as good as Fat Dave

Usually we see eye to eye on fighter's 99% of the time but you're WAY off the mark with Pacheco. The only way he'll become world champion is if Crawford leaves the division and he fights for a vacant title.

Lol are you saying he'll be at least as good as Benavidez?

[SouthpawRight]

Usually we see eye to eye on fighter's 99% of the time but you're WAY off the mark with Pacheco. The only way he'll become world champion is if Crawford leaves the division and he fights for a vacant title.

Lol are you saying he'll be at least as good as Benavidez?

why not Fat Dave wasn't all that impressive early on

now he's good to very good

don't believe he's near great