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  • Coverdale
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    #151
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    Ok forget all the psycho therapy sessions and let’s just get to it, at what point in the fight do you think a warning for excessive holding would have been warranted?

    Bear in mind the highest number of clinches in 1 round was 4 (rounds 2 and 3). After round 6 (3) there was never a round that had more than 2, with 3 of those rounds being 1, 1 and 0 cliches.

    At what point did the holding become excessive to you? Bear in mind that again there are 21 occasions any kind of holding was done, in a 12 round fight. Just bear that massively important to the discussion objective fact in mind.
    The warning should always come as early as possible otherwise it obviously impacts the overall journey of the fight, which it very likely did in this fight. Bayless was just too conditioned to view Mayweather's fouling as normal having refereed five of his previous fights at that point.

    Lennox Lewis got a warning in the 2nd round for his holding against Tyson, for example.

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    • TheProudLunatic
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      #152
      Pac has been very eager to keep fighting while May has been content in his retirement

      Someone is desperate for funds

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      • Oregonian
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        #153
        Originally posted by hugh grant

        Because pac s greater, and can't claim to be better h2h even with one win over pac With 2 wins he can at least claim to be better h2h if not having greater career. And first fight so many controversies of one kind or another
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        PAC has MULTIPLE losses. Perhaps an Ugas rematch would also make sense to prove Ugas wasn’t “lucky”?

        Anyone who has beaten PAC needs to have TWO wins to claim to be better. Unbelievable!

        Controversies?? LOL … like the “rotator calf injury”? We also heard of the “calf muscle injury” when he lost to Ugas.
        There was also the “lucky punch” from Marquez even after being dropped earlier by another “lucky punch”. Ther was the “he beat Morales better” than Morales beat him.
        There was the “robbery” with Tim Bradley. There was the “inexperienced” when he got KO’d by Singsurat.

        There was also the kickboxer and YouTuber exhibitions that you guys swore PAC would never do until he did and then it became “he has earned the right to make money”.

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        • davef
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          #154
          Originally posted by Oregonian
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          PAC has MULTIPLE losses. Perhaps an Ugas rematch would also make sense to prove Ugas wasn’t “lucky”?

          Anyone who has beaten PAC needs to have TWO wins to claim to be better. Unbelievable!

          Controversies?? LOL … like the “rotator calf injury”? We also heard of the “calf muscle injury” when he lost to Ugas.
          There was also the “lucky punch” from Marquez even after being dropped earlier by another “lucky punch”. Ther was the “he beat Morales better” than Morales beat him.
          There was the “robbery” with Tim Bradley. There was the “inexperienced” when he got KO’d by Singsurat.

          There was also the kickboxer and YouTuber exhibitions that you guys swore PAC would never do until he did and then it became “he has earned the right to make money”.
          You forgot to add he lost to a school teacher in Jeff Horn

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          • hugh grant
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            #155
            Originally posted by Oregonian
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            PAC has MULTIPLE losses. Perhaps an Ugas rematch would also make sense to prove Ugas wasn’t “lucky”?

            Anyone who has beaten PAC needs to have TWO wins to claim to be better. Unbelievable!

            Controversies?? LOL … like the “rotator calf injury”? We also heard of the “calf muscle injury” when he lost to Ugas.
            There was also the “lucky punch” from Marquez even after being dropped earlier by another “lucky punch”. Ther was the “he beat Morales better” than Morales beat him.
            There was the “robbery” with Tim Bradley. There was the “inexperienced” when he got KO’d by Singsurat.

            There was also the kickboxer and YouTuber exhibitions that you guys swore PAC would never do until he did and then it became “he has earned the right to make money”.
            Well, pac s greater than everyone he's lost to. Ugas can rematch pac to be first to best pac twice. But Pac don't need to rematch ugas, as he's greater. Pac don't need floyd rematch, but fans wouldn't mind knowing in a trilogy does pac win 2 times out of 3

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            • Oregonian
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              #156
              Originally posted by hugh grant

              Well, pac s greater than everyone he's lost to. Ugas can rematch pac to be first to best pac twice. But Pac don't need to rematch ugas, as he's greater. Pac don't need floyd rematch, but fans wouldn't mind knowing in a trilogy does pac win 2 times out of 3
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              PAC has achieved more than the guy’s he’s lost to. Don’t mean he’s greater. Those multiple losses and head to head loss to Floyd work against him.
              The dubious “8 division titles” fall apart under a forensic scrutiny .

              Example: A vacant 154 belt at a catchweight of 150 against a guy coming off a spectacular KO loss is dubious as it comes.

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