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  • Bennyleonard99
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    Boxing is eating itself to death

    Back in the golden age there were so many fights to look forward to. So many magnetic personalities in the sport and media too. Today boxing has eaten itself to death. There is no big fights that draw you in. Usyk has some flair but the only challenger that is exciting for him is a 20 year old kid. The biggest star in the sport is a 60 year old former champion who smokes weed every day. His rigged sparring session exhibitions generate more money than the current elites. Bud Crawford has a year or two left but nobody knows who he is. Boxing's funeral is coming soon and then the resurrection will occur after the sanctioning body mafias shutdown operations. Moses Itauma will save the sport and lead it into a new golden age while inspiring a new generation of future stars the same way Ali and Leonard did!!
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    #2
    Originally posted by Bennyleonard99
    Back in the golden age there were so many fights to look forward to. So many magnetic personalities in the sport and media too. Today boxing has eaten itself to death. There is no big fights that draw you in. Usyk has some flair but the only challenger that is exciting for him is a 20 year old kid. The biggest star in the sport is a 60 year old former champion who smokes weed every day. His rigged sparring session exhibitions generate more money than the current elites. Bud Crawford has a year or two left but nobody knows who he is. Boxing's funeral is coming soon and then the resurrection will occur after the sanctioning body mafias shutdown operations. Moses Itauma will save the sport and lead it into a new golden age while inspiring a new generation of future stars the same way Ali and Leonard did!!
    No pressure for Itauma.

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    • Wayneta
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      Boxing really isn’t what it used to be. Back in the day, fights had storylines, rivalries, personalities that made you feel something. Now it’s all politics, belts, and social media hype. Still, I think you’re right, someone like Moses Itauma could light that fire again. He’s young, hungry, and has that spark the sport’s missing. Watching boxing fade hurts, but maybe that’s the cycle of all great things, they fall before they rise. Kind of like how I once had to call Urevo customer service after my treadmill broke, frustrating, but rebuilding feels good.
      Last edited by Wayneta; Today, 03:11 AM.

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      • Bennyleonard99
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        #4
        Originally posted by ELPacman

        No pressure for Itauma.
        Moses will chew that pressure up and spit it out into diamonds

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        • Bennyleonard99
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          #5
          Originally posted by Wayneta
          Boxing really isn’t what it used to be.
          Nope. It's a ghost of it's once great self though it was always corrupt. But one man can change it all. It's the crazy ones who change the world.

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          • nghtmr111
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            #6
            What are some of the funniest claims and things that have contributed to the joke in recent years?

            "Gervonta is the face of boxing" is the first that comes to mind.

            Anyone got anything else? Lol

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            • t_dirtydizzawg
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              I have a problem with the lack of exposure, primarily through network television, in today's boxing landscape, and the fact that they are putting far too many events on as pay-per-view, but I disagree with the sentiment that there is a lack of magnetic personalities or big fights. I guess it depends on what you are looking for.

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              • SouthpawRight
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                #8
                This weekend main event is alright

                Vergil card is decent

                TOTALLY FREE to witness a dwarf take on a giant with Gervonta Jake on Nov 14

                David Nov 22 is a good card

                Naoya Dec 27 is a great card

                manny fights again in January with Keith as the co-main

                Top Soviet Bivol-Artur Unfinished Business in February. Turki please put Callum-Cuban David on this card!
                Last edited by SouthpawRight; 10-23-2025, 02:33 PM.

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                • DeeMoney
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                  #9
                  I am hesitant to say boxing is in a death spiral, and I know this is something that is always said (rose tinted glasses and all) but I do think there are some problems.

                  Number one is promoters and promotional groups that care more about taking a small scrap for themselves as opposed to having the sport grow. Boxing is the only major sport that is fractured in this way, and it has been a problem for as long as it has existed. But then again this problem existed a decade ago, and I believe boxing right now isnt as good as it was several years back, so there has to be other factors.

                  I think the disappearance of televised boxing, both regular cable and network (ESPN, CBS, etc) and pay channels (HBO, Showtime) have contributed to this decline. I get that the way many people consume media has changed. But you couple no major television outlet with the fractured nature of the promoters and this has doubly made things bad. Covid may have also played a role in all of this, and I kind of feel as if that was a turning point.

                  Moreover, I feel as if a lot of the fighters from the previous generation have aged out, and a lot of fighters from the next generation have somewhat stalled in their ascension. For example, I picked a random recent year before Covid (2016) and I looked at the year end ring ratngs, which to me shows what things were like going into 2017. I see a lot of depth in the weight classes, maybe not of great fighters, but at least good fighters- and most notably in their PRIME good fighters. These fighters would go on to fight each other over the next few years.
                  Take heavyweight for example, I know most of ya'll hate one of the following I am gonna list (and since you are internet people you will let your hate of them blur your vision to the point) but consider Wlad, Fury, Wilder, Pulev, Ortiz, AJ, Parker, Stiverne, Haye, and Ruiz were all the top fighters at the time most of them were in their prime, and most would fight others on the list. You can look at other weight classes
                  Lt Heavy- Ward and Kov.
                  SMW- Degale and Jack.
                  MW- Canelo, GGG, Jacobs, Saunders, Lemieux
                  WW- Brook, Tthurman, Porter, Garcia
                  JW- Bud and Postol

                  and On and On, Lightweight, Feather, Superfly. Depth of good fighters who fought each other while still being good fighters, AND we recognized them as being good at the time.

                  Now look at the weight classes heading into this year. Most heavies are old, Lt heavy has a couple at the top, but they may be done with each other. SMW, MW, WW, JWW, not a lot of good fighters who have shown to be such. Some classes have potential, like JMW, but you have injuries or cases like Bud just stopping by the weight class.

                  I have no doubt that there are stars in the making in boxing right now, but I just feel as if right now, its in a lull. Give it a couple years (and hopefully some TV deals) and it will be back.

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                  • pollywog
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                    #10
                    Promoters constantly looking to pull the wool over punters eyes by selling over marinated fake goods past their use by date is the biggest cause.

                    But its not like this is a new thing.

                    The difference is Joe Public with the internet as his friend isnt as gullible as he used to be. He knows that a pig with lipstick on is still a pig and mutton dressed as lamb is still mutton.

                    If you look at the heavyweight division, 2 U.K powerbrokers have had a stranglehold on the straps by hyping up flawed and fraudulent fighters who hold belts to ransom with a-side diva demands like rematch clauses, low ball offers and straight up manipulating of rankings.

                    Even now they're still trying it on with Brit Joshua still being held up as the gold standard despite getting laid out in his last fight by another Brit guy who also got laid out and with a 20 year old Brit Itauma supposedly being an invincible GOAT without ever having been beyond the 6th round or faced a top 10 fighter.

                    Boxing is not a Meritocracy, it is Cronyism at its worst and people have had a gutsful, but cant do anything about it except show disinterest which the broadcasters have picked up on and also looked the other way.

                    There is simply too much other sports competing for the sponsors/advertising and gämbling dollar and what with Turkis entry into the sport splashing massive bucks on cards that are never intended to make a profit, elite boxers are holding out for paydays that far exceed their value to the sport while Turki looks to control the narrative by gagging, slaughtering and chopping up the free press.

                    Boxers themselves long considered lunks getting pimped and ripped off by shonky promoters are now savvy business men more likely to earn as much from social media side hustles as prize money.

                    So while i wouldnt say boxing boxing is eating itself, it is definitely sucking and nibbling it's own cameltoes and who wants to see that ?


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