No more cans for Ennis please.

[Coverdale]

I think this Ortiz/Fundora marination is a bigger problem than it appears. Ortiz/Fundora not happening leads to the likes of Spence/Thurman getting recycled, and guys like Lubin ducking one title shot (vs. Murtazaliev) to fight for an interim title because it's supposedly more lucrative. Meanwhile, Ennis wins an interim title in his 154lb debut and the demand is for him to face someone who seemingly doesn't want to cash in his own interim title. I've already settled on the conclusion that Ortiz/Fundora are avoiding each other. And if they are avoiding each other, it isn't out of the realm of possibility that they would also avoid Ennis. 154lb is chaotic because the correct match-ups aren't happening, and Ennis' presence will only exacerbate that problem.

'Interim' baubles definitely make fighters (or rather their teams) more risk averse because they suddenly feel they have something to lose: either a shot at the full titleholder or, at least, an email belt. It's no coincidence that Kabayel was taking repeated risks but now that he's got an 'interim' suddenly there's no fight scheduled.

[kiaba360]

Coverdale, The closer a boxer gets to a title, the worse the politics seem to get. Kabayel will be 11 months inactive by the time we see him again.

[Pac=Duran]

We saw against Stanionis that Boots is capable of mixing it with the top contenders. That fight with Lima last night was pointless, especially considering how inactive fighters are today.

Someone like Ortiz, Fundora, Bakhram, Zayas etc needs to be next. Hopefully the rumoured Ortiz fight gets made because it’s a great acid test for both.

Theres never been a fighter that has made me care less than Ennis. Hes running the early Crawford/Wilder career path and it is incredibly gay

[El_Mero]

We saw against Stanionis that Boots is capable of mixing it with the top contenders. That fight with Lima last night was pointless, especially considering how inactive fighters are today.

Someone like Ortiz, Fundora, Bakhram, Zayas etc needs to be next. Hopefully the rumoured Ortiz fight gets made because it’s a great acid test for both.

Stanionis was a top contender.? Whod he beat?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Stanionis was a top contender.? Whod he beat?

He was ranked #2 by Ring behind only Ennis himself, who else was he supposed to fight at 147?

The division is/was a wasteland. The way in which Boots beat him was impressive though.

[El_Mero]

He was ranked #2 by Ring behind only Ennis himself, who else was he supposed to fight at 147?

The division is/was a wasteland. The way in which Boots beat him was impressive though.

Exactly my point. Just call it what it was, a horrible division with nobody worth speaking about. Youre basically saying hes a top guy in a sh.it division, after having never fought anyone.

[famicommander]

He was ranked #2 by Ring behind only Ennis himself, who else was he supposed to fight at 147?

The division is/was a wasteland. The way in which Boots beat him was impressive though.

Norman was and is considerably better than Stanionis. But I think he turned down the Boots fight.

But Boots has already ducked both Crawford and Ortiz himself

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Exactly my point. Just call it what it was, a horrible division with nobody worth speaking about. Youre basically saying hes a top guy in a sh.it division, after having never fought anyone.

Boots was clearly levels above Stanionis. He’s unquestionably a talented fighter and capable of mixing it with top contenders i.e Ortiz, Fundora, Murtazaliev etc.

[famicommander]

Boots was clearly levels above Stanionis. He’s unquestionably a talented fighter and capable of mixing it with top contenders i.e Ortiz, Fundora, Murtazaliev etc.

I think Boots gets hit way too much to beat Ortiz or Murtazaliev. Those fights with Karen were telling.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Norman was and is considerably better than Stanionis. But I think he turned down the Boots fight.

But Boots has already ducked both Crawford and Ortiz himself

I think Haney’s movement might give Norman a lot of trouble. If Norman is the truth I feel like this is a fight he should win. How do you see it going?