Comments Thread For: Vergil Ortiz says move to middleweight 'inevitable' as title shot continues to elude him at 154

[drablj]

Can someone explain why, for example, the WBC have ordered Matias v Smith (#1) rather than Matias - Cruz ('interim')?

dalton was already a mandatory when wbc sanctioned interim belt fight. scum simply want more sanctioning fees. there's nothing logical or fair about them.

[steeve steel]

He has turned down multiple title shots. You can't say they've eluded you, you just didn't find one on the terms you wanted. Boo hoo.

Exactly! Poor baby can't get a free belt. Oh and always these issues with his health. I mean, i don't want to be cold hearted, but if boxing is too hard, find another job. He's already a millionaire, so open a gym, or a shop, or go back to school.

[real raw]

well he had a chance to fight for a belt at 154 and turned it down when he could have then had unifications and big fights as a belt holder

fundora is busy with his stuff and boots ennis is his mando i think, what does ortiz expect people to do just drop everything and fight him lol

there is a tried and tested way to a title shot which works a fair bit in boxing, u make yourself mando and then the title holder has to fight u or vacate

i have no sympathy for him whatsover, hes got good fights recently and got the rub of the green in a close one where he was dropped twice and is complaining like this and turning down title fights, wow hard to believe

Although I don't follow the ins and outs of how fights get made, Devin Haney seems to have taken any title shot he could get.

If a title fight is offered, fighters should take the fight. If they win, the new champion calls the shots.

[real raw]

the ibf drop this clause for unifications i think, otherwise we may never see any undisputed guys at all lol

the rules are too hodge podge, the ibf mean well by trying to make sure guys are around the same weight but it needs a unified all orgs approach and noone seems interested at all

why not just weight them shortly before they go to the ring hbo style like they do with jockies before the race to make sure all is fair, u are over u pay a heafty % to your opponent, something really nasty to make sure it doesnt happen, if u are a serial over guy u dont get fights lol

The rehydration clause is currently the closest thing to same day weigh-in. Fighters are fighting for championships 2-3 divisions below how much they actually weigh.

I'm 100 percent in favor of weighing in just before the fight. If the fight is contracted at 160, fighters should enter the ring at 160. The public is the only one being deceived

[garfios]

He already had a shot but didn't want to abide by the IBF 10 pounds limit.

[factsarenice]

Seriously I think it was oscar who said that ortiz lives a clean lifestyle. No smoking or drinking. So that pretty much just leaves gluttony. Or probably his illness/disease he has is more serious than any of us know.

True, Ortiz does live a clean life but also true is that he can have a championship fight tomorrow if he is willing to abide by the rules of the belt's sanctioning body...period... and Vergil and Oscar both know that..

At 154lbs Fundora is in PBC prison and he'll stay there until they need him to move up to fill in for one of the current PBC middleweight champions. Bob Arum has the 154lb WBO champion and he's not going to risk the belt to anyone outside of the Top Rank prison.

In short,Vergil can have a shot at the 154lb IBF belt tomorrow and he's take it if it were Xander Zayas but not against a very strong, tough guy like Bakhram Murtazaliev and that is the honest truth.

That said I don't blame Vegil or Oscar, boxing is a business of risk reward but claiming no champions will give Ortiz a chance because is absolute, pure unadulterated BS.

[57Blues]

these guys are more full of it then a Job Site Spot a Pot................if you fight it will come to you if you dont then dont complain.....sympathy ? You want what .....?

[factsarenice]

I understood that weight was an issue at 147 so Virgil Ortiz moved up a weight class in 2024 . One year later Virgil Ortiz can't fight for championship unless he is allowed to break IBF weight rules....and it's Bakhram Murtazaliev fault. Basically , that's what Virgil is selling.