Carl Froch, Joe Calzaghe War of Words Starts Again

[Dan...]

Calzaghe is correct. Kessler is one a completely different level to Froch.

[Bhopreign]

What???????

Im not sure every champ has to put their title on the line every fight in the tourney, someone brought this up the other day.

[S A M U R A I]

Calzaghe is correct. Kessler is one a completely different level to Froch.

Kessler is ****ing great. I hope he gets the respect he deserves one day. One thing I love is how incredibly clean he fights -- I have never seen him cheat and he hardly ever clinches unless he's hurt, but very rarely does he get hurt. In the Calzaghe fight he only clinched 3 times, I think, and considering Joe's Duracell Bunny style which saw him throw over 1,000 punches Kessler's way, that's pretty damn respectable.



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[Dorian]

Cant wait till Kessler will ice him.

[Dave Rado]

from my experience usually a boxer with solid fundamentals and a llittle bit of pop beats an unorthodox fighter. Barrera-Hamed would be a perfect example. Style-wise, Hamed threw the rule book out the window, while Barrera used boxing basics to completely take him apart. Another example is Bradley-Witter, with Jr. W having the unorthodox style and Bradley using more of a traditional approach.

Ali threw the rule book out the window, but it didn't do him any harm. Calzaghe was very unorthodox. So was Roy Jones Jnr. I think your theory is far too simplistic. It would have taken a Joe Louis to expose Ali - possibly. And Hamed had cleared out the division before being exposed by Barrera - and even then, he hadn't taken his training seriously, to the extent that Manny Steward threatened to walk out several times. It's impossible to be sure what would have happened if the best, most focussed, version of Hamed had turned up for that fight.

[Dave Rado]

Im not sure every champ has to put their title on the line every fight in the tourney, someone brought this up the other day.

It will be a unification fight when they meet, unless Kessler loses to Ward. Both fighters and Showtime and Sauerland have said so.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Im not sure every champ has to put their title on the line every fight in the tourney, someone brought this up the other day.

What would be the point in that? Its bollox, the belts are up for grabs.

[Dave Rado]

Hi again Samurai.

Froch has a style which resembles the Ingle fighters. Most of the time they end up getting a beating against good competition. I have never been a fan of the Ingle style, it can only ever go so far. You can almost guarantee a Kessler win when Froch faces him.

I'm a bit puzzled by that comment. I thought all of the Ingle fighters concentrated on being elusive, which Froch is anything but.

And Herol Graham gave a prime Mike McCallum (who most now regard as an ATG) arguably his toughest fight, which he only lost as a result of points deducted for low blows, so he must have been doing something right.

[Access_Denied]

Froch dam just let go of Calzaghe's nutz man, I bet Froch would drop the Super Six if Calzaghe would fight him.

[S A M U R A I]

Ali threw the rule book out the window, but it didn't do him any harm. Calzaghe was very unorthodox. So was Roy Jones Jnr. I think your theory is far too simplistic. It would have taken a Joe Louis to expose Ali - possibly. And Hamed had cleared out the division before being exposed by Barrera - and even then, he hadn't taken his training seriously, to the extent that Manny Steward threatened to walk out several times. It's impossible to be sure what would have happened if the best, most focussed, version of Hamed had turned up for that fight.

That's the first time I've seen you make a spelling mistake, Dave. 'Focused' has only one S.

You have a point, but there's a difference here. Jones, for example, was athletic enough and had a fast enough reaction time to get away with being unorthodox. I don't think Froch has anywhere near the same reflexes that he can rely on to sneak, slip and slide out of the way of punches.

Joe wasn't that unorthodox. He is quite traditional, actually, and certainly nowhere bear being an Ingle-style fighter.

Ali was just something else completely. He's such a one-off I don't even want to include him in the conversation.

As for Hamed, I'm sorry, I just never rated him, even when he was at his peak. I have an older brother who followed his career a bit, watched his fights and bought videos on him. I used ask "why do you like this clown? He will be beaten by a smart boxer soon.", and shortly afterwards Barrera whipped him. You say he was lacking motivation, and that's why he put in a lackluster performance? I disagree. He just hadn't met the right opponent who could take him apart until he met Barrera, a fighter who Hamed avoided, right? My brother used to talk to Naz in bars and stuff when he saw him around town. Naz apparently went quiet when he told him to watch out for Barrera. This was a long time before they fought, too.



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