Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez re-enters WBO super middleweight rankings at No. 1

[boxingitis]

Canelo has been all smoke and mirrors for many years. There's guys who would have beat him or given him REAL big trouble. Even Munguia, John Ryder and Berlenga gave him hard fights. Canelo couldn't get anything going in his fight against Scull. He looked absolutely lost. Have people forgotten that boxing fans have been wondering if he's been a shot fighter for 4 or more years. No stamina, throws single shots with full power (often from to far out of range), slow paced fighter, slow trudging foot movement, needs to hurt opponents with single shots or he's unable to sustain a continuous assault. Geriatric Golovkin even gave him a run for his money in their third and final fight (GGG's first fight at 168 and at 41 years old and final fight of his career). Why is everyone not talking about this old, declined, shopworn Canelo? He can still be a formidable fighter but he's closer to FINISHED than he is to PRIME.

So you're saying Crawford beat and old and past prime Canelo.

[57Blues]

Not surprised W.B.O has Sheeraz next well done Turki . Alvarez won’t go near Iglesias or Martinez or Mbilli . Turki got Sheeraz or Eubanks jr. Crawford need’s to vacate also unless he’s gonna give Iglesias or Martinez or Mbilli a Shot.

i am not a " Saul " fan never had been but is he afraid of what waits him with MBilli ? i believe he could frustrate Billi and get his work in .............i understand power and naked aggression but boxing is still part of boxing......

[Joseph]

Canelo has been all smoke and mirrors for many years. There's guys who would have beat him or given him REAL big trouble. Even Munguia, John Ryder and Berlenga gave him hard fights. Canelo couldn't get anything going in his fight against Scull. He looked absolutely lost. Have people forgotten that boxing fans have been wondering if he's been a shot fighter for 4 or more years. No stamina, throws single shots with full power (often from to far out of range), slow paced fighter, slow trudging foot movement, needs to hurt opponents with single shots or he's unable to sustain a continuous assault. Geriatric Golovkin even gave him a run for his money in their third and final fight (GGG's first fight at 168 and at 41 years old and final fight of his career). Why is everyone not talking about this old, declined, shopworn Canelo? He can still be a formidable fighter but he's closer to FINISHED than he is to PRIME.

Anyone who knows anything about boxing HAVE BEEN discussing exactly what you described.

I'm in the camp that Plant was the last we saw of Prime Canelo. Bivol beat him so bad with a simple 1-2, a plan that essentially set him on the road to being a shot fighter. And he IS shot.

If I were Canelo, I'd just retire and preserve my legacy, however tainted it may be. It's there, he has it, nothing left to prove except maybe fighting Benavidez but I truly believe he loses that one (at least now). Why not enjoy the generational wealth and the fact that no one ever dropped you? He's now playing with serious fire at this stage of his career. I think someone will stop him if he continues. Bivol could have; he let off the gas. Crawford had him so off balance but never went for the kill. Someone else will.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I think Canelo Alvarez should move up into the 175 pound divisions 'In the fight vs Terrence Crawford, Alvarez's endurance levels appeared to be worst than ever. Maybe this was influenced by making the 168 pound weight limit at this stage of his career. I am aware that historically the Super Middle Weight Divisions has been Canelo Alvarez's best weight division. But even in this divisions, Alvarez has most likely still been weight draining himself throughout his entire Championship reign'.

I think there is a definitive possibility, that after 68 professional boxing fights '68 fights where he has most likely been weight draining himself extensively, throughout his entire career. The negative accumulative effects of that lifestyle have breached the threshold. Canelo Alvarez in my opinion looked dead at the weight vs Terrence Crawford'.

Note: Canelo Alvarez during his career, has been beaten legitimate 3 times 'but during those loses, he has never been severely beaten up or decked. So this notion that Alvarez has miles on the clock, in my opinion is not a total negative. Alvarez has a lot of experience, I would say? That he is still the most experienced active fighter at top level in the entire sport of boxing'.

I think Canelo Alvarez if he is to continue fighting on, should seriously considered moving up into the 175 pound divisions 'chase the rematch vs Dmitry Bivol II, or make a mega fight vs David Benavidez'.

To conclude: Canelo Alvarez was a long time reigning Champion 'so I would imagine, that he should have an opportunity to rematch Terrence Crawford II. It is irrelevant whether people within the boxing community think? The first fight was competitive enough, to deserve Canelo Alvarez a rematch'.

Due to the fact that Canelo Alvarez has been the Undisputed Champion for many years, that in my opinion automatically qualifies him for a rematch 'and the opportunity to win his titles back if he so desires to pursue that challenge' etc.

[JuniorTorres720]

I'm not really mad that the sanctioning bodies would rank Canelo so highly. Is number 1 too generous? Maybe. But a top 5 spot after losing to a pound for pound great isn't too bad. Does the Crawford loss dent his legacy and standing? In some ways yes. A fight who jumped up 2-3 weight classes to beat you is a bad loss. But, it also speaks volumes of Terence's greatness. I'm okay with this either way. I don't know if Canelo is eager to fight Hamzah. I know Turki would love to make that fight. One fight I think is winnable for Canelo and I think would produce fireworks is against Jose Armando Resendiz. They both have Caleb Plant as a mutual opponent. Why not?

[factsarenice]

First things first...EVERYONE said Canelo was too big for Crawford, Terrance Crawford handily beats Canelo and now everyone is saying that Canelo is over rated bum. Similar to Errol Spence, Canelo is a great fighter but Terrance makes great fighters look ordinary and because he does it with such easy it must be because the other guy was over rated. In the end, Terrance will NEVER get the respect he deserves and for that reason I think he should just walk away.

Second, Canelo (a man I have serious issues with) was the unified champion at 168lbs. It's simple math people....after one loss Canelo should be the #1 contender with every sanctioning body until he's beaten by someone better. Just because some fan boy thinks their guy is more deserving is not enough, status should be determined in the ring.

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[B]

Second, Canelo (a man I have serious issues with) was the unified champion at 168lbs. It's simple math people....after one loss Canelo should be the #1 contender with every sanctioning body until he's beaten by someone better. Just because some fan boy thinks their guy is more deserving is not enough, status should be determined in the ring.

I was going to say the exact same thing.

Canelo had ALL the belts at 168 lbs. One loss should demote him only to #1 contender status and no further. It’s very reasonable and people who have a problem with that just aren’t using their head.

[Damn Wicked]

So you're saying Crawford beat and old and past prime Canelo.

Yes. Geriatric GGG, Munguia, Berlenga and Scull gave a past prime Canelo all he could handle too. It seems that everyone has forgot all about the "Is Canelo shot?" talk since his loss to Crawford. It's very convenient for many fans at this time.

[Damn Wicked]

First things first...EVERYONE said Canelo was too big for Crawford, Terrance Crawford handily beats Canelo and now everyone is saying that Canelo is over rated bum. Similar to Errol Spence, Canelo is a great fighter but Terrance makes great fighters look ordinary and because he does it with such easy it must be because the other guy was over rated. In the end, Terrance will NEVER get the respect he deserves and for that reason I think he should just walk away.

Second, Canelo (a man I have serious issues with) was the unified champion at 168lbs. It's simple math people....after one loss Canelo should be the #1 contender with every sanctioning body until he's beaten by someone better. Just because some fan boy thinks their guy is more deserving is not enough, status should be determined in the ring.

Not even close to "EVERYONE" was predicting a Canelo win. There were MANY people predicting a Crawford win (fans and boxing insiders). Particularly in the weeks heading into the fight. Crawford was gaining lots of support from many people. I posted that I could see the fight going any which way. Canelo looked horrible and lost against Scull in his previous fight. You weren't watching the forums and the insider interviews if you think "EVERYONE" was picking Canelo to win. I favoured Canelo slightly, simply because he usually gets the benefit of the doubt on the scorecards and is the "A side fighter".

[factsarenice]

Not even close to "EVERYONE" was predicting a Canelo win. There were MANY people predicting a Crawford win (fans and boxing insiders). Particularly in the weeks heading into the fight. Crawford was gaining lots of support from many people. I posted that I could see the fight going any which way. Canelo looked horrible and lost against Scull in his previous fight. You weren't watching the forums and the insider interviews if you think "EVERYONE" was picking Canelo to win. I favoured Canelo slightly, simply because he usually gets the benefit of the doubt on the scorecards and is the "A side fighter".

Obviously not "EVERYONE" favored Canelo, but that's not even the point. The point is that every time Terrance ," light in the ass, no belt" Crawford accomplishes something it's not because Crawford is that good but almost always because the other guy is a fraud. When Terrance Crawford koed the guy that smashed Yordenis Ugas eye socket in 2022...it wasn't because Crawford was better it was because Spence's car crash in 2019, three years before he crushed Ugas. When Crawford beat "If I beat him everyone will say he was too small" Canelo Alvarez, people act as if Crawford had nothing to do with it. Canelo's seek and destroy style put light-heavyweights to sleep but didn't work on Bevel because he had a jab and footwork and didn't work on Crawford because Canelo is 35 and too old to beat a 38 a year old Crawford. It's never because Crawford has better jab and footwork that makes great fighters look ordinary but because they were over rated or some other BS.

I'm sorry, but there are too many examples in plan sight and don't even get me started on the police pulling guns on Crawford for the crime of *driving while black*