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  • Hustle
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    #21
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    Oh really?

    When was Duke McKenzie inducted? I must have missed it.
    He's a 1 division champion. Wbo didn't count in the 90s

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      #22
      Originally posted by drablj

      4 division champion leo gamez isn't in the hall of fame. ricky burns, casimero and jorge linares wouldn't be too.
      Burns and Linares are getting in. But i hear you

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        #23
        Originally posted by Hustle

        He's a 1 division champion. Wbo didn't count in the 90s
        He’s a 3 division champion. That’s a fact.

        Once the WBO became recognised as legtimate, as did all their previous champions.

        Unless you’re telling me Micheal Moorer was never a world champion at Light Heavyweight? Or Joe Calzaghe didn’t win World title until 2006? Or Chris Eubank didn’t win a world title at all? And neither did Steve Collins? Or Oscar De La Hoya had no title defenses at Lightweight? Somehow I think probably not.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Hustle

          Burns and Linares are getting in. But i hear you
          0% chance Ricky Burns gets into the HOF.

          Doubtful he even gets the on Ballot.

          Fernando Montiel isn’t getting in. Doubt he gets on the ballot

          Jorge Arce isn’t getting in. Don’t know if he’s on the ballot.

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            #25
            arce is on the ballot.
            akira yaegashi isn't in.

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              #26
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza

              He’s a 3 division champion. That’s a fact.

              Once the WBO became recognised as legtimate, as did all their previous champions.

              Unless you’re telling me Micheal Moorer was never a world champion at Light Heavyweight? Or Joe Calzaghe didn’t win World title until 2006? Or Chris Eubank didn’t win a world title at all? And neither did Steve Collins? Or Oscar De La Hoya had no title defenses at Lightweight? Somehow I think probably not.
              Was the wbo recognized at the time they were won? No.

              They were great fighters holding a title that wasn't recognized as legitimate

              The wbo in the 90s was the equivalent of what the ibo is today.

              So by your logic, chris eubank is a current middleweight champion as ibo champion. He's not. And if the ibo become legitimate 10 years from now. I still wont see him as a former champion
              Last edited by Hustle; 09-27-2025, 09:50 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Hustle

                Was the wbo recognized at the time they were won? No.

                They were great fighters holding a title that wasn't recognized as legitimate

                The wbo in the 90s was the equivalent of what the ibo is today.

                So by your logic, chris eubank is a current middleweight champion as ibo champion. He's not. And if the ibo become legitimate 10 years from now. I still wont see him as a former champion
                Which part of once it was recognised as legitimate their last champions were also is eluding you?

                So Micheal Moorer was never a world champion at LHW?

                Chris Eubank was never a world champion?

                Steve Collins was never a world champion?

                Think you’ll find all 3 are considered as such. Since, they were. As was Duke McKenzie, in 3 weight classes.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  Which part of once it was recognised as legitimate their last champions were also is eluding you?

                  So Micheal Moorer was never a world champion at LHW?

                  Chris Eubank was never a world champion?

                  Steve Collins was never a world champion?

                  Think you’ll find all 3 are considered as such. Since, they were. As was Duke McKenzie, in 3 weight classes.
                  Like I said, they weren't considered legitimate in real time.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                    He’s a 3 division champion. That’s a fact.

                    Once the WBO became recognised as legtimate, as did all their previous champions.

                    Unless you’re telling me Micheal Moorer was never a world champion at Light Heavyweight? Or Joe Calzaghe didn’t win World title until 2006? Or Chris Eubank didn’t win a world title at all? And neither did Steve Collins? Or Oscar De La Hoya had no title defenses at Lightweight? Somehow I think probably not.
                    I don't retroactively recognise WBO 'champions' (belt holders) at all. I don't see how that's a sustainable position to take. Do you now think Francesco Damiani was dis*****g Tyson's clam to the world heavyweight championship even though no one (including you because you are old enough to have watched in real time) was doing so at the time?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      So Micheal Moorer was never a world champion at LHW?
                      Correct, he was not.

                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Chris Eubank was never a world champion?
                      Correct, he was not.

                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Steve Collins was never a world champion?
                      Correct, he was not.

                      Nor were the multitude of WBO heavyweight belt holders during this period. Holyfield didn't even want it on the line for his third encounter with Bowe because he was concerned it would jeopardise his ranking with the Big Three.

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