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    #21
    On a serious note, 135 Floyd smokes Crawford and 147 Bud Crawford smokes Mayweather. It's a split draw. Now argue about when the hit they're respective peak, the only real debate IMHO.

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    • NarcosMaidana
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      #22
      Nope! He's far behind. Just because TBud beat Canelo doesn't rank him above Floyd. Although, I feel his performance against Canelo is better, Floyd still has a better resume.

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      • 57Blues
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        #23
        "Great"........ it would be great if they had enough fights on air live and available without any games about match-ups and match making or platforms so we all could be talking this past weekends fights instead of a fighter whose time is long gone and another who we will not see for another year......................

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        • hugh grant
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          #24
          This version of Nelo probably thinks hed beat floyd easily in.a rematch. And that Nel o didn't best bud, Nelo is giving bud his flowers. I mean bud is 3 time undisputed, and I don't know who bud beat exactly or what he did to achieve that, probably no-one great. But id pick bud to beat any version of opponent floyd beat. Floyd's known as a cautious guy so it's highly unlikely his resume is anything to write home about, and anyone who brags about Floyd's supposed resume is mostly full of hot air
          Last edited by hugh grant; 09-22-2025, 12:27 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by boxingitis

            Past Prime Oscar De La Hoya, Mosley
            Not in his Prime Pacman
            Brought up Marquez 2 Division and didn't make the weight
            Canelo 23 and Drained 2 Pounds
            Draw or lost to Maidana and Castillo
            Never Undisputed in any weight class
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            There you again. You’re trying really hard to discredit Floyd in order to elevate Crawford. Those two are mutually exclusive.

            I used to be critical of Bud’s resume at 147 but I never once talked shít about it while comparing it to Floyd’s resume. Bud’s destruction of Spence and insurmountable win over Canelo puts him on a whole different level. He is an ATG.

            What you can compare is the weak era they both fought at and promotional squabbles and greed. You know very well that context matters especially on how promoters protected their fighters. It’s not their fault that they fought the guys available.

            I could easily argue the examples you gave but your hate for Floyd cannot be overcome by facts and logic.

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            • Oregonian
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              #26
              Originally posted by jackblack008
              Peak TC beats peak FMJ
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              Peak FMJ beats peak TC.

              We can all throw our options out there. We’re now even.

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                #27
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Before long bud will be a 6 weight champ so he will be greater than floyd. Unlikely to be as great as pac though as pac campaigned in 7th weight class for 10 years after cotto win, literally taking on and mostly beating all comers.
                Bud at this point is at the pac beating cotto stage of pac s career.
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                Bud beat everyone without dubious catchweight restrictions AND never fighting for VACANT belts so as to claim titles in MORE divisions.
                I mean Bud could fight for a vacant belt at 160 and 175 against nondescript weight drained guys and that would give him titles at two more weight classes, no?

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                • MalevolentBite
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by boxingitis

                  Past Prime Oscar De La Hoya, Mosley
                  Not in his Prime Pacman
                  Brought up Marquez 2 Division and didn't make the weight
                  Canelo 23 and Drained 2 Pounds
                  Draw or lost to Maidana and Castillo
                  Never Undisputed in any weight class
                  2lbs but what did he weight coming into the fight? He outweighed floyd by 10 pounds. The same canelo that put a rehydration clause on Jacobs.

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                  • MalevolentBite
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by champion4ever
                    If it had not been for Crawford’s resume. He would have been ranked higher on the mythical P4P list than both Floyd Mayweather, Jr and Manny Pacquiao.

                    Not only do I believe he is the better fighter of the three but also he is a five time divisional world champion and a three time undisputed divisional world champion.

                    Which is both unheard of and something that neither Money or Pac has ever achieved in their careers. Not one of them has ever cleaned out an entire division in the four belt era.

                    So call Terence ‘Bud’ Crawford the “Clean up man”.
                    The trash man mans cleans up trash. Thats it.


                    Idc if you find gold in the trash can. You are still dumpster dying. Crawford got those accolades from bums and faded fighters.

                    Canelo did the same bs. If floyd retired after Ricky Hatton he would still be a first ballot ATG and hall of famer. Crawford got here based on beating a guy that lost every time he stepped up to a prime fighter.

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                    • SouthpawRight
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MalevolentBite

                      The trash man mans cleans up trash. Thats it.


                      Idc if you find gold in the trash can. You are still dumpster dying. Crawford got those accolades from bums and faded fighters.

                      Canelo did the same bs. If floyd retired after Ricky Hatton he would still be a first ballot ATG and hall of famer. Crawford got here based on beating a guy that lost every time he stepped up to a prime fighter.
                      running through MULTIPLE all time greats eclipses multi division undisputed by beating guys who aren’t great

                      Let use our brains here rather than mindlessly fall for marketing gimmick labels

                      who you beat trumps collecting belts collect dust

                      undisputed is the weakest argument Harry Greb and Sam Langford were uncrowned and still top 4 all time
                      Last edited by SouthpawRight; 09-22-2025, 03:38 PM.

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