Comments Thread For: Ranking Terence Crawford above Floyd Mayweather ?can be self-serving?

[Jamesboxing]

Floyd has the better resume imo but Crawford did get froze out for a long time being with TR and PBC just not willing to have anything to do with him. I think if they was to though let’s say Crawford now and the Mayweather that thought Canelo I think bud beats him I think he’d out work out him because offensively he’s a lot better than Floyd with more wrinkles to his game in that department

[Oregonian]

I'm digging it. Seeing those idiot thugs trip over themselves is hilarious. Far as I know Crawford isn't a drug cheat like froid so that already makes him a better fighter.

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Wild accusation seething with toxic rage and reeking of the antebellum south of you-know-what.
As much as I respect Crawford, Floyd did not work with Conte nor was he afraid of needles despite not have a single tattoo on his body but but but … you go ahead and continue peddling your ….

[hugh grant]

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Bud beat everyone without dubious catchweight restrictions AND never fighting for VACANT belts so as to claim titles in MORE divisions.
I mean Bud could fight for a vacant belt at 160 and 175 against nondescript weight drained guys and that would give him titles at two more weight classes, no?

I really believe bud can do everything pac did in his career. Bud just needs to do it. He can't live off this Nelo win. Buds arrived on the world stage now with this win as the underdog.
Win title at 160. Best the guy at 175. Bud will unlikely campaign at 175 like pac did at 147 for 10 years. But at least bud can make some of the boasts pac has.

[The D3vil]

I go with Bud personally because of the lack of PED allegations, dubious decisions, ducking, & the fact that a whole generation of people ducked him until he got old.

[hitmanjosh]

I'm not even reading this garbage and I like both fighters completely, however Floyd has beaten 9 Hall of Famers not 1 so let's not talk foolish hear!

[SouthpawRight]

I'm not even reading this garbage and I like both fighters completely, however Floyd has beaten 9 Hall of Famers not 1 so let's not talk foolish hear!

Floyd didn't just beat great fighters. HOW you won over great opponents should be weighted also

Floyd easily beat them

of the 9 only ONE Oscar managed to take more than 3 clear rounds

[Oregonian]

I really believe bud can do everything pac did in his career. Bud just needs to do it. He can't live off this Nelo win. Buds arrived on the world stage now with this win as the underdog.
Win title at 160. Best the guy at 175. Bud will unlikely campaign at 175 like pac did at 147 for 10 years. But at least bud can make some of the boasts pac has.

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That’s all fine and dandy but I was responding to what you wrote specifically - “Unlikely to be as great as pac though as pac campaigned in 7th weight class for 10 years after cotto win, literally taking on and mostly beating all comers.Bud at this point is at the pac beating cotto stage of pac s career.“.

“Unlikely to be as great as PAC”? That’s because Bud is not going to be demanding catchweights at multiple weight classes.

“PAC took on all comers”? Really? Oscars coming off a loss to Floyd and was drained to 147, Broner was coming off two losses and a draw. Margarito was coming off a KO loss to Mosley and it was a catchweight, Hatton was coming off a KO loss to Floyd, Mosley was coming off a one-sided beat down by Floyd, Cotto was coming off a TKO loss and the fight was a catchweight to drain him, Mathysse? Jesse Vargas, Brandon Rios? Come on man!!

You ignored that part of my response to you

[champion4ever]

Honestly "clearing out" a division by just beating one fighter is a bit of a joke. And this is a different discussion, but Canelo has looked like raw ass his last six fights. Becoming undisputed the way Crawford has is more circumstance than skill.

The only other fighter to ever achieve such an accomplishment; Becoming undisputed champion in three different weight divisions was Henry Armstrong.
Likewise, he defeated only one fighter as well.

However, his was done in succession and simultaneously. Let’s just keep in mind that Crawford’s legacy is still currently being written though.

So who knows once the dust settles where his career trajectory will be? He doesn’t appear to be slowing down even at the age of 37 going on 38 in a week or so.

[hugh grant]

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That’s all fine and dandy but I was responding to what you wrote specifically - “Unlikely to be as great as pac though as pac campaigned in 7th weight class for 10 years after cotto win, literally taking on and mostly beating all comers.Bud at this point is at the pac beating cotto stage of pac s career.“.

“Unlikely to be as great as PAC”? That’s because Bud is not going to be demanding catchweights at multiple weight classes.

“PAC took on all comers”? Really? Oscars coming off a loss to Floyd and was drained to 147, Broner was coming off two losses and a draw. Margarito was coming off a KO loss to Mosley and it was a catchweight, Hatton was coming off a KO loss to Floyd, Mosley was coming off a one-sided beat down by Floyd, Cotto was coming off a TKO loss and the fight was a catchweight to drain him, Mathysse? Jesse Vargas, Brandon Rios? Come on man!!

You ignored that part of my response to you

I can see you are trying to downplay pac. Pac fought many of the opponents floyd fought and they say pac was toughest opponent, so I'll take what you say with a pinch of salt.
So everyone bud fought were killers were they brook, khan, porter, spence. You.think I can't (or rather people cant, as I'm not boastful) think of 100 things to say about these opponents, or about buds undisputed claims? Did bud even fight once a year, so what if bud stepped up 2 divisions, well done bud, now move on?
Pac s campaign at 147 for 10 years he fought good fighters

[SouthpawRight]

The only other fighter to ever achieve such an accomplishment; Becoming undisputed champion in three different weight divisions was Henry Armstrong.
Likewise, he defeated only one fighter as well.

However, his was done in succession and simultaneously. Let’s just keep in mind that Crawford’s legacy is still currently being written though.

So who knows once the dust settles where his career trajectory will be? He doesn’t appear to be slowing down even at the age of 37 going on 38 in a week or so.

I believe with a few good wins at 160 TBud would move himself to top 20 all time from where he currently is top 25 top 30

Top 20 same neighborhood as his fellow switch-hitter Marvin Archie Carlos is still pretty great

TBud has the difficulty of lack of great opponents around for him to catch up with Floyd Benny Pernell manny