This maybe the tip of the iceberg re: su****ions of performance enhancers use by PAC

[maguirre]

Manny needs to clean his lif up he rolls around with real scumbags lmao...Anyone that needed anything more than his refusal to test as a means to call him into question is a fool. After the Baseball scandal it became very clear that the only people who refuse or oppose the testing are users.

Yep. If I were Manny and feel that extracting blood from my body distracts my training and have a very dangerous effect in my fight when it is done too close to the fight, I'd reject that ****** test totally. 1000% Let them fools suspect I'm cheating all they want. They are the accusers. Let them produce evidence. Not me. The majority of people are really not that ******, in my view, anyway. What is mind-boggling to me is why fanboys are so concerned about these things. Hate, jealousy, bigotry... couple of reasons.

But this has become moot, anyway. Manny already stated that he will bow down to the coward's demands. It's the coward's turn to call Manny's bluff.

[Pacquiao'd]

they got caught nevertheless.. just wait till manny get caught, if he is guilty.. for now STFU !

no they didnt. they did not get caught or maybe you fail at understanding the term "caught"

[j.one]

Yep. If I were Manny and feel that extracting blood from my body distracts my training and have a very dangerous effect in my fight when it is done too close to the fight, I'd reject that ****** test totally. 1000% Let them fools suspect I'm cheating all they want. They are the accusers. Let them produce evidence. Not me. The majority of people are really not that ******, in my view, anyway. What is mind-boggling to me is why fanboys are so concerned about these things. Hate, jealousy, bigotry... couple of reasons.

But this has become moot, anyway. Manny already stated that he will bow down to the coward's demands. It's the coward's turn to call Manny's bluff.

Why is he above su****ion despite his antics a rhetoric?

[PACnPBFsuck]

Yep. If I were Manny and feel that extracting blood from my body distracts my training and have a very dangerous effect in my fight when it is done too close to the fight, I'd reject that ****** test totally. 1000% Let them fools suspect I'm cheating all they want. They are the accusers. Let them produce evidence. Not me. The majority of people are really not that ******, in my view, anyway. What is mind-boggling to me is why fanboys are so concerned about these things. Hate, jealousy, bigotry... couple of reasons.

But this has become moot, anyway. Manny already stated that he will bow down to the coward's demands. It's the coward's turn to call Manny's bluff.

He was offered 2 weeks before the fight, now I'm not the smartest in the world, but it doesn't take a human being 2 weeks to recover from 40-60 ML of blood.

Don't be gullible.

After the fact, he should've called his bluff in January of 2010, not june of 2010.

[maguirre]

Why is he above su****ion despite his antics a rhetoric?

Nobody is above su****ion the fact that he is suspected here almost on a daily basis. People just have forgotten there is this thing called common sense, and don't have to go through any link that favors hater's agendas, anyway. Think, man, think.

[maguirre]

He was offered 2 weeks before the fight, now I'm not the smartest in the world, but it doesn't take a human being 2 weeks to recover from 40-60 ML of blood.

Don't be gullible.

After the fact, he should've called his bluff in January of 2010, not june of 2010.

Like I said man. Suspect him all you want. Nobody can stop you, anyway. You have your silly agenda. What exactly do I expect?

(Pac has been using A-side meth to beat bums. That's how corny fanboys here are.)

[PACnPBFsuck]

Like I said man. Suspect him all you want. Nobody can stop you, anyway. You have your silly agenda. What exactly do I expect? Pac has been using A-side meth to beat bums.

I'm not suspecting or accusing him, but he's doing everything a su****ious person does.

Suing people, telling his S&C coach that he doesn't want to know what he's giving him, why would a fighter not wanna know what he's consuming?

You know what Lance Armastrong did when Landis accused him of doping, he did another Tour de France, he didn't sue or avoid testing. Now Lance could have easily sue him, but instead he prove him wrong and got paid for it, he didn't pay lawyers for nonsense that can be easily proven.

Last time I checked Lance Armstrong is way bigger around the world than Pacquiao and Mayweather put together.

[maguirre]

You know what Lance Armastrong did when Landis accused him of doping, he did another Tour de France, he didn't sue or avoid testing. Now Lance could have easily sue him, but instead he prove him wrong and got paid for it, he didn't pay lawyers for nonsense that can be easily proven.

Okay. Tell me exactly the kind of test they did to Armstrong.

[PACnPBFsuck]

Okay. Tell me exactly the kind of test they did to Armstrong.

Ask WADA, not me.

[ny123]

I didn't say 'roid use, because PAC has never been caught, however, there are other illegal substances that can enhance an athletes performance. Below is an article that was originally posted by another boxingscene member.

I looked up the name of the other strength & conditioning coach. At the end of this article, I attached the bio of this particular coach and I must say, this is some shady ****!! Now, it's also a possibility that PAC's strength and conditioning coach just happens to have the same exact name as the man involved in the Balco scandal, I don't know.


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In an overseas telephone conversation with Boxingscene.com, Insidesports.ph, Standard Today and Viva Sports, Manny Pacquiao’s media advisor Mike Koncz said training was progressing remarkably well despite persistent reports of in-camp fighting.

“Everything is going exactly to plan” Koncz declared, suggesting that rumors to the contrary were a “ruse perpetrated by the betting industry”.

Conditioning coach Alex Ariza has allowed a rare glimpse into Pacquiao’s eating regime. “Manny loves bananas” he said, pointing out that he had eaten one for breakfast that very morning.

Another source told us that Manny’s fondness for bananas was beginning to frustrate trainer Freddie Roach. It was rumored that Manny frequently had to rush to the bathroom mid sparring on more than one occasion. “They just go straight through him” Roach was heard to mutter.

Pacquiao’s chief sparring partner Jose Luis Castillo was reluctant to comment although he did hint that bananas were Manny’s “secret weapon” when trying to make weight.

It can also be revealed that Pacquiao’s camp has enlisted the help of former athletics coach Trevor Graham for “secret strength and speed coaching”.

“It’s not the first time we have used him” Ariza said, suggesting that Graham was actually the mastermind behind Manny’s freakish success over the past few years.

“He wouldn’t be here without Big Trev, that’s for sure” Roach admitted.

Manny has also been running everyday, except during periods of inclement weather.
“He doesn’t like to get his feet wet” laughed sparring partner Shawn Porter, “It’s no wonder he can’t swim”.



Trevor Graham
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Trevor Graham is a Jamaican-born former athletics coach, based in the United States. Following the BALCO scandal, the US Olympic Committee barred him indefinitely from all its training sites as a number of the athletes he was training had tested positive for drug abuse.
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Formed in 1993 by Graham and incorporated in 1997, Sprint Capitol USA was based at the Paul Derr Track on the North Carolina State University Main Campus in Raleigh, North Carolina.

Among the athletes who joined and trained with the group were:

* Shawn Crawford
* Justin Gatlin- received an 8 year suspension from USADA in 2006
* Alvin Harrison- received a 4 year suspension from USADA in 2004
* C.J. Hunter- tested positive for Nandrolone after withdrawing from the Olympics in 2000.
* Marion Jones- olympic medals and world records revoked after she admitted accepting performance enhancing drugs from Graham in the BALCO scandal
* Tim Montgomery - 100m World Record revoked after he admitted accepting steroids and other performance enhancing drugs from BALCO[4]
* Antonio Pettigrew- Olympic medals for entire 2000 U.S 4 x 400 metres relay team were returned following admission of use of HGH and EPO under Graham
* Jerome Young- received suspension and disqualifications for using Nandrolone, since overturned
* Marcus Brunson
* Duane Ross
* Randall Evans
* Chandra Sturrup
* Me'Lisa Barber
* LaTasha Jenkins

[edit] BALCO scandal

Graham played a critical role in the BALCO (Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative) scandal of June 2003, anonymously sending a syringe containing the designer steroid Tetrahydrogestrinone (THG) to the United States Anti-Doping Agency. In July 2006, Angel Guillermo Heredia testified before a US Federal Grand Jury that he had worked for Graham from 1996 to 2000, providing illegal performance enhancing drugs. While a number of athletes coached by Trevor Graham have received suspensions for drug use, he has always denied direct knowledge or involvement, and denies having ever met Heredia.[5] After Gatlin failed a test for testosterone, announced in July 2006, Graham stated in an interview that Gatlin had been set up. [6][4]

An unsent letter written by BALCO's Victor Conte to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency described the use of an oral testosterone by Graham that "will clear the body and be undetectable in urine in less than a week after discontinuing use." At the end of the letter, Gatlin was one of four athletes identified as using the drug.[7]

The International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) said on July 31, 2006 that Graham could face a two-year ban if evidence links him to any doping violations and the United States Anti-Doping Agency decides not to take action.[8]

On August 3, 2006 the United States Olympic Committee banned Trevor Graham from its training facilities[9]. This was the first time a coach has received such a ban based on the excessive number athletes in their charge who have tested positive. As a result of the above events, Nike ended its contract with Graham in August 2006.[10]

On May 29, 2008 Graham was convicted of one count of lying to federal investigators. A mistrial was declared on two other counts as jurors could not reach a unanimous agreement.[11]

The US Anti-Doping Agency chief executive Travis Tygar, on July 15, 2008, confirmed a life ban on Trevor Graham for breaking anti-drugs rules: "It sends a powerful reminder that coaches are not above the rules. There's a misconception that they are because we don't drug-test them, but this shows that we'll use all of our authority. There's no opportunity to seek reinstatement. Any chance that he may have had for that has passed. He's waived that."[12] His ban included participation in any event sanctioned by the U.S. Olympic Committee, the IAAF, USA Track & Field or any other group that participates in the World Anti-Doping Agency program

I dont feel like reading through this thread. Can anyone tell me if this article is legit and Pac has used this guy?