Crawford believes Pacquiao-Horn was NOT a robbery

[hugh grant]

Let's stack up them L's ....

Basic AF Ugas
*HORN (CPGW)
May (of course)
JMM 4 (almost caught a murder charge)
*Timmeh 1 ( )
Erik 2
Singsurat via KO
Torrecampo via KO

* = Clear as day robberies

Pac campaigned in his 7th weight class for 10 years beating all comers. Once bud beats more 168 fighters for next 5 years years at the very least, than bud will be close to pac. But until then, not close

[TheProudLunatic]

Pac campaigned in his 7th weight class for 10 years beating all comers. Once bud beats more 168 fighters for next 5 years years at the very least, than bud will be close to pac. But until then, not close

Bud and Pac both had soft roads to travel
Pac had an entire country behind him, increasing the hype
Bud would have only 1 L if he had Pac's resuMay

[hugh grant]

Bud and Pac both had soft roads to travel
Pac had an entire country behind him, increasing the hype
Bud would have only 1 L if he had Pac's resuMay

Bud wont.lose as he has 10 month training camps for opponents with his once a year fights. I think we all know bud is the take it easy fighter, he learnt off of floyd.

[NihonJim]

When I see people saying fights like this weren't a robbery I just have to shake my head

Horn was dirty and fouling all night and Pacquiao still bashed his brains in

[SouthpawRight]

I've always thought Horn won that fight. Too many people were busy listening to Teddy Atlas going crazy at the verdict. Even Tim Bradley seemed to think that a win for Horn wasn't farfetched.

Only watched the fight once, live, but I didn't think it was a robbery either.

As I remember it, Horn's physicality made the fight ugly but it also seemed to throw Manny off his rhythm. I don't think he was expecting such a gruelling fight. I saw a clip recently of round eight or nine, when Manny hurt Horn, and Manny looked ragged and dog-tired, uncharacteristically so. By the end it had swung closer but I remember being unsurprised at it going Horn's way.

Worth noting that I wasn't watching ESPN broadcast with Teddy Atlas. It wasn't until a day later that I realised there was even supposed to be any controversy.

a draw would have been fair too

Horn confirmed that manny was well past prime

the come forward pressure style with limited defense is one manny used to eat for lunch

[TheProudLunatic]

Bud wont.lose as he has 10 month training camps for opponents with his once a year fights. I think we all know bud is the take it easy fighter, he learnt off of floyd.

Poor Pac
Had to struggle with so many no hopers.....

[STREET CLEANER]

Of course he is going to say that, he beat Horn.

[daggum]

2016: crawford says he wont move up to 147 and will only fight pac at 140 and pac is ducking him lol wut
2017: pac gets robbed against crawford
2018: crawford does the troll face and says horn won and moves up to 147 to fight him

[famicommander]

2016: crawford says he wont move up to 147 and will only fight pac at 140 and pac is ducking him lol wut
2017: pac gets robbed against crawford
2018: crawford does the troll face and says horn won and moves up to 147 to fight him

You are leaving out the important context that Crawford was pursuing the undisputed title at 140 and wanted to do that before he moved up to 147.

He won the vacant WBO title in April 2015
He won the WBC and vacant lineal/TBRB/Ring championship in July 2016
He won the WBA and IBF titles to become undisputed in August 2017

Then he immediately moved to welterweight.

He obviously wasn't going to move to 147 for one fight, move back down to 140 to become undisputed, and then move back up to 147. Just like it would have been dumb to move up to 154 to challenge for a belt before he got the Spence fight at 147.

You can't just cherrypick the facts that suit your pet narrative of the moment. If Pac hadn't lost to Horn, he would've been knocked out by Crawford.

And there was nothing saying Pac couldn't challenge Crawford after Crawford beat Horn. Instead he went after a WBA secondary belt, defended it against Broner, and then fought the ghost of Keith Thurman for his WBA strap. And then he picked Spence to try to unify with instead of Crawford (though it ended up being Ugas).

[IronDanHamza]

I had it 7-5 Horn