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  • Stuntman Mike
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    #61


    Originally posted by SouthpawRight
    TBud would be an awful night for manny

    they southpaw so TBud gets an open lane for his jab

    it'd be landing way more than Floyd's stick did

    manny gets picked apart by the open lane jab

    becomes increasingly desperate and starts lunging in

    to get countered by southpaw right hook into oblivion

    TBud has one punch ko power in all of the weights in common with manny

    Gamboa clapped Buds cheeks for a bit

    Pacquiao punches in combinations and his footwork at getting in and out is unlike anything Bud would have seen

    Prime Pacquiao stops Crawford and outpoints Mayweather hes just that much better

    that prime Pacquiao could have clapped Buds cheeks into submission

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    • davef
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      #62
      Respect your opinion but for me, from seeing all 3 with my own eyes Pac and Floyd were another level compared to Bud

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      • SouthpawRight
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        #63
        Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

        We also have to remember Manny went into the Floyd fight with an injured right shoulder that got worse after round four. He was denied a shot for his shoulder prior to the fight. X-rays showed a tear in the cuff which he had surgically repaired.
        so Floyd who was older 10-2’d manny due to a busted shoulder

        The fabled bad shoulder being the reason Floyd schooled manny would prove that manny had more left in the tank than Floyd lol

        Originally posted by champion4ever
        You are right. It is very feasible that Money May could have outpointed Bud.

        However, Floyd had long retired before Crawford made his foray into the welterweight division.

        TopRank helped ruined Bud’s legacy by holding him back. He should have had the permission to cross the other side of street and fight all the other top welterweights in the world over at the PBC.
        8-4 style

        TBud could build off of Zab success. It’d still be competitive in the 2nd half since TBud can adjust unlike Zab

        but Floyd ring iq is twice as quick as TBud

        Originally posted by Stuntman Mike




        Gamboa clapped Buds cheeks for a bit

        Pacquiao punches in combinations and his footwork at getting in and out is unlike anything Bud would have seen

        Prime Pacquiao stops Crawford and outpoints Mayweather hes just that much better

        that prime Pacquiao could have clapped Buds cheeks into submission
        manny prime being Morales2-margarito

        During that time he couldn’t stop margarito who been ko’d before and was begging for punches to the face

        went life and death with Erik and Juan due to their back foot counterpunching

        struggled to cut off Miguel for the stoppage

        struggled to cut off Shane who didn’t come to fight

        but will somehow stop TBud an elite back foot counterpuncher with good defense that’s bigger than margarito and smarter than Juan

        okay

        manny gets put out by a TBud Southpaw Right Hook

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        • SouthpawRight
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          #64
          Originally posted by davef
          Respect your opinion but for me, from seeing all 3 with my own eyes Pac and Floyd were another level compared to Bud
          TBud wins this eye test:

          TBud-Errol VS Manny-Miguel

          TBud-Saul VS Manny-Marco

          But loses this eye test:

          TBud-Errol VS Floyd-Diego

          TBud-Saul VS Floyd-Miguel

          TBud has the greatest win since Duran-Sugar Leonard

          But when it comes to eye test: Floyd > TBud > manny

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            #65
            Originally posted by SouthpawRight
            so Floyd who was older 10-2’d manny due to a busted shoulder

            The fabled bad shoulder being the reason Floyd schooled manny would prove that manny had more left in the tank than Floyd lol

            8-4 style

            TBud could build off of Zab success. It’d still be competitive in the 2nd half since TBud can adjust unlike Zab

            but Floyd ring iq is twice as quick as TBud

            manny prime being Morales2-margarito

            During that time he couldn’t stop margarito who been ko’d before and was begging for punches to the face

            went life and death with Erik and Juan due to their back foot counterpunching

            struggled to cut off Miguel for the stoppage

            struggled to cut off Shane who didn’t come to fight

            but will somehow stop TBud an elite back foot counterpuncher with good defense that’s bigger than margarito and smarter than Juan

            okay

            manny gets put out by a TBud Southpaw Right Hook
            His shoulder was legitimately injured, prior to the fight and worsened by end of round four. Floyd knew this too. He clinched often during the fight in between running and popping an occasional jab and right hand. The biggest fight of the century was a flop, largely because Floyd fought scared and was content to win on scorecards with his favorite judges. The punch stat numbers were all wrong as well. Then come to find out Floyd used an illegal IV the night prior to mask whatever PEDs he was taking and this should have been ruled a no-contest.

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              #66
              Originally posted by SouthpawRight
              But was he

              46 year old manny looked better against Mario

              than 40 year old Floyd did against a mma fighter
              Yes, pac was more past prime than floyd. Pac looked better against Mario than floyd looked against a mms fighter is because Pac s greater than floyd and had off night against floyd because of bad shoulder, but many still felt pac best floyd.
              So floyd had a habit of looking bad, whether it was against maidana, pac, or mm a fighters.

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                #67
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

                His shoulder was legitimately injured, prior to the fight and worsened by end of round four. Floyd knew this too. He clinched often during the fight in between running and popping an occasional jab and right hand. The biggest fight of the century was a flop, largely because Floyd fought scared and was content to win on scorecards with his favorite judges. The punch stat numbers were all wrong as well. Then come to find out Floyd used an illegal IV the night prior to mask whatever PEDs he was taking and this should have been ruled a no-contest.
                oh yep manny didn’t know how to fight dirty

                worsened by end of 4 yet manny took round 6 and made round 7 close



                Originally posted by hugh grant
                So floyd had a habit of looking bad, whether it was against maidana, pac, or mm a fighters.


                IronDanHamza get a load of this according to Hugh the closest ever to pure boxer perfection had a habit of looking bad

                I cannot make this sht up

                Then every other fighter had a habit of looking crap

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

                  His shoulder was legitimately injured, prior to the fight and worsened by end of round four. Floyd knew this too. He clinched often during the fight in between running and popping an occasional jab and right hand. The biggest fight of the century was a flop, largely because Floyd fought scared and was content to win on scorecards with his favorite judges. The punch stat numbers were all wrong as well. Then come to find out Floyd used an illegal IV the night prior to mask whatever PEDs he was taking and this should have been ruled a no-contest.
                  He clinched 21 times in the entire fight which is less than 2 times per round on average.

                  So not "often".

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                  • Stuntman Mike
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by SouthpawRight

                    manny prime being Morales2-margarito

                    During that time he couldn’t stop margarito who been ko’d before and was begging for punches to the face

                    went life and death with Erik and Juan due to their back foot counterpunching

                    struggled to cut off Miguel for the stoppage

                    struggled to cut off Shane who didn’t come to fight

                    but will somehow stop TBud an elite back foot counterpuncher with good defense that’s bigger than margarito and smarter than Juan

                    okay

                    manny gets put out by a TBud Southpaw Right Hook
                    Shows how much you really know or want to believe

                    Cotto was in absolute survival mode from the 4th round onwards and he knows his way around the ring.
                    It would be a struggle to stop a random run of the mill guy from the street who is just trying to survive.

                    Pacquiao easily beat Juan in the third fight when he simply boxed and wasnt looking for sheer damage but he fights for the fans which was his undoing in the 4th fight.

                    again youve obviously never stepped foot in a ring if youre just slipping and surviving which ive done in sparring without looking for a counter you can easily avoid contact or have minimal contact for 3 mins
                    So to dominate the super experienced shane mosley to the point he didnt want to engage and run was impressive in itself.

                    Pacquiao literally broke Margaritos face to a pulp along with a orbital fracture,he never got the stoppage but he did more damage to him than anyone else.
                    Mosley landed a peach of a punch to get Margarito on ***** street.the ref should have stopped that fight tbh with pacquiao tbh.

                    Pacquiao beat Morales ass the last two times he fought him so why you brought him into this just shows ydksab

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                    • Stuntman Mike
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                      so Floyd who was older 10-2’d manny due to a busted shoulder

                      The fabled bad shoulder being the reason Floyd schooled manny would prove that manny had more left in the tank than Floyd lol

                      8-4 style

                      TBud could build off of Zab success. It’d still be competitive in the 2nd half since TBud can adjust unlike Zab

                      but Floyd ring iq is twice as quick as TBud

                      manny prime being Morales2-margarito

                      During that time he couldn’t stop margarito who been ko’d before and was begging for punches to the face

                      went life and death with Erik and Juan due to their back foot counterpunching

                      struggled to cut off Miguel for the stoppage

                      struggled to cut off Shane who didn’t come to fight

                      but will somehow stop TBud an elite back foot counterpuncher with good defense that’s bigger than margarito and smarter than Juan

                      okay

                      manny gets put out by a TBud Southpaw Right Hook
                      Gamboa had Tbud looking like Khan in the Prescott fight so wtf are you even talking about.

                      Mosley rocking Floyd was acceptable he was above his natural weight class at 147 for his frame anyways but Bud getting rocked by a 130 midget just proved to anyone with half a brain why he only has two names on his resume and they were both shot to bits


                      Spences prime was left on the dashboard of his car and Canelo went life and death with John Ryder

                      Its choreographed greatness for the casuals like you to guzzle up and you enjoy it so much

                      I really cant educate your race riding brain anymore
                      Last edited by Stuntman Mike; Today, 04:30 PM.

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