Terence Crawford is one of the greatest of all time.

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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    Terence Crawford is one of the greatest of all time.

    Just landed back from Vegas. Hence why I haven’t posted in about a week. Honestly what an event, kudos to TKO for putting this together. Atmosphere was great, the Mexicans came out, Omaha too. Best event I’ve been too in well over a decade.

    For me this could be the greatest single victory in boxing history. Crawford was the smaller man, the older man, he was moving up essentially 3 divisions to a weight class far above his optimum weight, he’d been inactive for over a year and he was coming up against a modern great, a guy universally ranked top 10 P4P who’d dominated 168 for 5 years. There was no catchweight, no clauses, he was the B-side fighter but none of that mattered because Bud is just that damn good. I think what makes it so impressive is the way he won, he outboxed and he outfought Canelo, it was a truly magnificent and dominant performance.

    For me personally, he’s the best I’ve seen live, the performance against Spence is probably the best performance I’ve seen live too. I’ve been privileged to watch guys like Floyd, Usyk, Inoue, Loma etc but Bud is easily the most impressive to watch live, the tools he has both offensively and defensively are incredible. I think he’s the best Welterweight since Ray Leonard- which is a 50/50 fight for me. I’d confidently say he beats both Floyd and Pac at 147. I just think he has far more weapons than both those guys at Welterweight.

    It’s obviously subjective where he ranks all time, some will have him higher, some will have him lower, but what isn’t debatable is Bud Crawford is now certainly in that conversation.
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    A little perspective is needed. Bud was underdog and that is why bud will get credit. Pac skipped divisions and won titles. RJJ skipped cruiserweight to win at heavyweight.
    Last edited by hugh grant; Yesterday, 04:44 AM.

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    • Coverdale
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      #3
      Been loads of threads like this since Saturday, mate. Glad you enjoyed your trip, though.

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      • MalevolentBite
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        Originally posted by Coverdale
        Been loads of threads like this since Saturday, mate. Glad you enjoyed your trip, though.
        I am not going to lie. I am kinda over it too. This is recently bias. I still never believe that smaller man stuff either. I remember before the Crawford Spence fight. Everyone was saying Spence was too big. He was a big welterweight. After the Spence fight. Floyd got on a interview and said. Spence is too big and shouldn't be at welterweight. He should be fight at 160 or even 168lbs.

        At first i was like floyd sounds Hella dumb. Then.......

        What weight class did Crawford just fight at? 168lbs..... its like he already knew these were bigger than what people lead to believe.

        I just think canelo was too lazy to cut weight to stay at 160lbs. Even Janibek could be a natural 168er. Fundora has room to even fill out to 175lbs if he did it slowly.
        Last edited by MalevolentBite; Yesterday, 06:24 AM.

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        • Da Pimper
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          You’re 4 days late OP.

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          • mlac
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            nice man, did you have decent seats? jelly. i would tend to agree but ive always thought Canelo was a manufactured hype job. i never rated him as p4p and think his career is smoke and mirrors tbh.

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            • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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              Yeah had pretty good seats, lower section of the stands, was actually a lot cheaper than Crawford-Spence, Canelo-GGG etc due to it being in the stadium. Will try and post a photo but I’m useless with technology.

              Keeps saying upload error. No idea how to upload from my iPhone.

              mlac Sorry bro, wouldn’t let me quote you, I can’t work this new forum.

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              • SouthpawRight
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                POSSIBLY up there with Sugar Leonard and Floyd in ability

                one of the goatS is oxymoron by definition there's only one

                Sugar Leonard and Floyd had to run through MULTIPLE all times to get their #10 and #11 rankings

                that includes wins over top 10 all time Roberto and top 15 all time manny

                TBud has handled ONE all time so far a lower tier great
                1. Sugar Robinson
                2. Harry
                3. Henry
                4. Sam
                5. Ezzard
                6. Willie
                7. Muhammad
                8. Roberto
                9. Joe
                10. Sugar Leonard
                11. Floyd
                12. Benny
                13. Pernell
                14. manny
                15. Jimmy
                16. Archie
                17. Carlos
                18. Marvin
                19. Barney
                20. Tony
                21. Julio Cesar
                22. Larry
                23. Rocky
                24. Gene
                25. Jack
                TBud could be top 20 but no more than top 15. Not enough time and opposition

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                • SouthpawRight
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                  #9
                  TBud would be an awful night for manny

                  they southpaw so TBud gets an open lane for his jab

                  it'd be landing way more than Floyd's stick did

                  manny gets picked apart by the open lane jab

                  becomes increasingly desperate and starts lunging in

                  to get countered by southpaw right hook into oblivion

                  TBud has one punch ko power in all of the weights in common with manny

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                  • NarcosMaidana
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SouthpawRight
                    TBud would be an awful night for manny

                    they southpaw so TBud gets an open lane for his jab

                    it'd be landing way more than Floyd's stick did

                    manny gets picked apart by the open lane jab

                    becomes increasingly desperate and starts lunging in

                    to get countered by southpaw right hook into oblivion

                    TBud has one punch ko power in all of the weights in common with manny
                    Cap! TBud was getting lit up by Gamboa and Pacquiao is a lot faster and stronger and uses more angle. There's a reason why TBud wanted the fight to be at 140. Why wasn't TBud as confidence against a fight with Pacquiao at 147 like he was with Canelo at 168? Asks yourself that!

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