The combination of factors most likely to have boxing institutions calling you "great"

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by ELPacman

    I'm not sure if that's about being honest or not. Being called the greatest is opinionated and should never be put on yourself by yourself. It's a matter of outside opinion to determine if one is deemed great and all other titles you want to throw at them. Calling yourself the greatest of anything, regardless of your achievements is more of a narcissistic personality. I know some folks with high level of anything in life (IQ, skills, whatever) will typically have the trait of being narcissistic, however there are plenty examples out there as well of those whom are not.
    But with Floyd he proved it over and over again.

    He also didn’t start calling himself TBE until late in his career after he had worked his way to the #1 p4p boxer in the sport and the top earner.

    Not like he called himself this when he was fighting on Tuesday nights on USA Network

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      #12
      Originally posted by daggum

      get real floyd wouldnt even fight stevie johnston. arum his own promoter confirmed that. he wanted all slow plodders.

      floyd wouldnt fight winky either after calling him out and demanding winky do a rehydration clause which winky agreed to, then floyd changed the money oops! seen that same thing from him before.

      he literally never fought a top 10 fighter until the genaro fight. he was given a title shot because of his hype, not tough resume yet you are making it seem like he was some unknown who worked his way up the ranks until he forced them to give him a title shot what the heck lol
      You are incredibly biased and have no credibility or integrity.

      If Floyd were from Eastern Europe or a Russian country, you’d have no issue with his resume.

      I know it bothers you that he worked his way to the top, eventually beating someone you loved.

      Get over it.

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        #13
        Originally posted by daggum

        floyd says he's the best....then doesnt fight guys for 5 years lol
        You can’t fight a guy that turns down offers to fight to instead fight for 42% less against a guy he was 2-0-1 against.

        Stop blaming that level of cowardice on Floyd.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 09-17-2025, 07:01 AM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by ELPacman

          I'm not sure if that's about being honest or not. Being called the greatest is opinionated and should never be put on yourself by yourself. It's a matter of outside opinion to determine if one is deemed great and all other titles you want to throw at them. Calling yourself the greatest of anything, regardless of your achievements is more of a narcissistic personality. I know some folks with high level of anything in life (IQ, skills, whatever) will typically have the trait of being narcissistic, however there are plenty examples out there as well of those whom are not.
          I can't take seriously the idea Floyd was an honest person.

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            #15
            American who gives lots of interviews in designer clothes and shades gets moved up the WBC rankings - twice - without having a single fight in the division: News in Boxing World: Jaron Ennis Returns to #1 Spot. The Next Fight is With Uisma Lima

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            • SouthpawRight
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              #16
              Because Americans dominate boxing despite being only 4% of the global population

              inferior euroid nationalities are welcome to come try to take the throne

              Brits fumbled hard after bringing back boxing

              Mexicans work extremely hard but their top guy Julio Cesar is just outside of the top 20 all time

              Russians and Cubans are upstarts in pro boxing

              Japan dominates the dwarf divisions where the talent pool isn’t deep

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                #17
                Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                Yeah, it is Mayweather blue print.

                It is easy to be undefeated, if you cherry pick right, fight in home country all the time, once a year, with domestic judges.

                Tank follows that blue print just perfectly.
                How is it possible to "cherry pick" ten fighters who were ranked #1 in the division being fought in at the time, another 5 or so in the Top 5 of the division being fought in at the time, 7 Top 10 P4P ranked fighters at the time, all whilst winning world titles in 5 divisions, 4 of which lineal? How can those two things co-exist with each other?

                Tank does the literal opposite of the above, so how is that the "blue print"?

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                • daggum
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  You can’t fight a guy that turns down offers to fight to instead fight for 42% less against a guy he was 2-0-1 against.

                  Stop blaming that level of cowardice on Floyd.
                  floyd fought for about 500% to 600% less against guys like ortiz, guerrero, and maidana instead of taking the pac fight. you never see it that way though...and remember these were floyds own demands that he changed. pac was never going to take that low ball offer and you know it. pac was literally more popular than floyd at that point as ive broken down the numbers in another thread in ppv buys and live gates. its pure duckage. also he fought guys for less instead of margarito. also he did the same thing when he ducked winky when winky agreed to all his dumb demands, he just changed the money. i dont see why you cant see he was a fraud? you can be a good fighter and still duck people. case and point floyd.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    You are incredibly biased and have no credibility or integrity.

                    If Floyd were from Eastern Europe or a Russian country, you’d have no issue with his resume.

                    I know it bothers you that he worked his way to the top, eventually beating someone you loved.

                    Get over it.
                    i have no issues with his resume. its fine. better than most for sure but i also know he avoided the most dangerous fights during his career so we have to take that into account. i cant give him fantasy wins and domination when he didnt want the smoke as they say. if he had tried to make the fights and guys avoided him like ggg then he would be seen in a different light but i know he ducked.

                    and he didnt work his way to the top as i just pointed out. he fought no one and was given a title shot. just because he won doesnt mean he deserved it. he was a blue chip prospect and you are acting like he was some random guy. crawford was actually kind of a random guy who caught everyones attention by surprise. you are describing crawford not floyd. crawford even had to go to the uk for his first title fight. floyd took advantage of a broken system when he realized he could get away with easy fights and nothing tough would be forced upon him. i just cant respect that. everyone that came before floyd took tough fights because they wanted to or at least they had enough dignity to take them even if they didnt want to. not floyd. he said it himself. we arent fighting to prove who is best. my responsibility as a fan is to reject that kind of thinking
                    Last edited by daggum; 09-19-2025, 03:05 PM.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by daggum

                      floyd fought for about 500% to 600% less against guys like ortiz, guerrero, and maidana instead of taking the pac fight. you never see it that way though...and remember these were floyds own demands that he changed. pac was never going to take that low ball offer and you know it. pac was literally more popular than floyd at that point as ive broken down the numbers in another thread in ppv buys and live gates. its pure duckage. also he fought guys for less instead of margarito. also he did the same thing when he ducked winky when winky agreed to all his dumb demands, he just changed the money. i dont see why you cant see he was a fraud? you can be a good fighter and still duck people. case and point floyd.
                      You can’t fight someone that refuses every deal you make him. Of course you don’t look at it like that because Manny was the opponent. He gets offers. He makes them to lesser opponents.

                      If he doesn’t take them you ask why. When you see how he fought during their fight, you realize all he wanted was the check.

                      Cool. Stop blaming Floyd for that level of cowardice.

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