The combination of factors most likely to have boxing institutions calling you "great"

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  • Coverdale
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    The combination of factors most likely to have boxing institutions calling you "great"

    1. Be American. This is the absolute number one factor. Simply being an active American boxer means you are orders of magnitude more likely than anyone from anywhere else to have people calling you great.
    2. Give lots of interviews. You're American and the US has the world's largest media reach so use it. Talk about your "greatness" a lot, preferably wearing designer clothes and shades. Edgar Berlanga was aware of the success of this approach hence his pre-fight antics before the Sheeraz fight.
    3. Have a "technical"/defensive style. The more dull 12-rounders you're involved in, the more you'll be pushed up the pound for pound rankings - provided you align with the two points above. Anyone who objects DKSAB and doesn't appreciate the sweet since, bro'.
    4. Take long breaks between fights. It's not because you're trying to statistically reduce the likelihood of a loss, it's because you're the "A-side", who wants his "bag" in the "home of boxing".
    5. Have all your fights in your home country with your countrymen as officials.
    6. No matter how much praise you get, complain that it's not enough. Even after you retire.
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    Yeah, it is Mayweather blue print.

    It is easy to be undefeated, if you cherry pick right, fight in home country all the time, once a year, with domestic judges.

    Tank follows that blue print just perfectly.

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      While I know most of this is sarcasm, I think the part about talking about yourself over and over that you are the greatest works on the uneducated.

      Others such as Pacquiao said it best when asked if they think they're an ATG and whatnot. He always says it's not up to him to decide that but the media and fans. If you ask someone else like a Fraud Jr. he'll say, OF COURSE I'M THE GREATEST AND YOU DKSAB!!! lol

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        #4
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
        Yeah, it is Mayweather blue print.

        It is easy to be undefeated, if you cherry pick right, fight in home country all the time, once a year, with domestic judges.

        Tank follows that blue print just perfectly.
        This shows you’re not a serious boxing fan that lacks historical knowledge.

        That or you’re a bitter loser fan of a guy Floyd beat.

        Mayweather was high risk, low reward until the ODH fight. He had to because he got robbed out of the gold medal at the 96 Olympics.

        He never got the launch the Gold Medal winners did.

        He fought tough comp, going from small venues on Tuesday night on USA Network, to an HBO contract, to the cash cow.

        Along the way he made himself the #1 p4p boxer in the sport. He didn’t earn that through cherry picking.

        Of course he fought in America during that time. That’s where the money was to be made. Should he have gone to Kazakhstan or somewhere else?

        Why hate on him for marketing and promoting himself to maximize his earnings?
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 09-16-2025, 03:17 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by ELPacman
          While I know most of this is sarcasm, I think the part about talking about yourself over and over that you are the greatest works on the uneducated.

          Others such as Pacquiao said it best when asked if they think they're an ATG and whatnot. He always says it's not up to him to decide that but the media and fans. If you ask someone else like a Fraud Jr. he'll say, OF COURSE I'M THE GREATEST AND YOU DKSAB!!! lol
          I prefer men be honest like Floyd and Ali and not fake humble.

          They say they are the best or the greatest then they out and back it up.

          What’s wrong with that?

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            Floyd was low-risk/high reward. Never beat an elite level fighter at their best. He timed their careers at just the right moment. Only casual apologists think otherwise.

            Ironically, the fighters who thump their chest and proclaim they are the best ever or greatest of all time typically aren't. It comes from arrogance and a deep-rooted insecurity. Confident men don't need to convince anyone with words, they use action.

            A good deal of blame can be placed upon commentators who are casuals at best when it comes to boxing. Or extremely biased. They convince other casuals that fighter A, B, or C is great without closely examining their respective careers.

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            • hugh grant
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              Nelo beating a number of different champs at 168. to become undisputed is more credible than bud beating Nelo alone. Nelo did all donkey work, and bud trained 10 months a year for Nel o fight, to try take the glory.
              But bud historically does deserve credit for one legit great win now
              Last edited by hugh grant; 09-16-2025, 04:51 PM.

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                #8
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                I prefer men be honest like Floyd and Ali and not fake humble.

                They say they are the best or the greatest then they out and back it up.

                What’s wrong with that?
                I'm not sure if that's about being honest or not. Being called the greatest is opinionated and should never be put on yourself by yourself. It's a matter of outside opinion to determine if one is deemed great and all other titles you want to throw at them. Calling yourself the greatest of anything, regardless of your achievements is more of a narcissistic personality. I know some folks with high level of anything in life (IQ, skills, whatever) will typically have the trait of being narcissistic, however there are plenty examples out there as well of those whom are not.

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                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  I prefer men be honest like Floyd and Ali and not fake humble.

                  They say they are the best or the greatest then they out and back it up.

                  What’s wrong with that?
                  floyd says he's the best....then doesnt fight guys for 5 years lol

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    This shows you’re not a serious boxing fan that lacks historical knowledge.

                    That or you’re a bitter loser fan of a guy Floyd beat.

                    Mayweather was high risk, low reward until the ODH fight. He had to because he got robbed out of the gold medal at the 96 Olympics.

                    He never got the launch the Gold Medal winners did.

                    He fought tough comp, going from small venues on Tuesday night on USA Network, to an HBO contract, to the cash cow.

                    Along the way he made himself the #1 p4p boxer in the sport. He didn’t earn that through cherry picking.

                    Of course he fought in America during that time. That’s where the money was to be made. Should he have gone to Kazakhstan or somewhere else?

                    Why hate on him for marketing and promoting himself to maximize his earnings?
                    get real floyd wouldnt even fight stevie johnston. arum his own promoter confirmed that. he wanted all slow plodders.

                    floyd wouldnt fight winky either after calling him out and demanding winky do a rehydration clause which winky agreed to, then floyd changed the money oops! seen that same thing from him before.

                    he literally never fought a top 10 fighter until the genaro fight. he was given a title shot because of his hype, not tough resume yet you are making it seem like he was some unknown who worked his way up the ranks until he forced them to give him a title shot what the heck lol
                    Last edited by daggum; 09-16-2025, 05:33 PM.

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