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  • Toffee
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    #21
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

    Not financial sense, which was the point of my post.

    The only financial gains are one of the 3 fights I listed.
    I reckon he's a bit too serious to entertain a freak show fight with Paul or Floyd. Even Manny.

    Canelo again makes sense. Other than that there's no-one within range that's worth fighting for him.

    Fighting Bivol might be a bridge too far. Bivol is a true light heavyweight and taller /longer. I just wonder whether he might be considering it though. It's probably the only remotely possible fight that enhances his legacy.

    Tank isn't going to come up in weight for them to meet. Won't happen. And I'm not sure it does much for Bud anyway - he'd be unbackable as a favourite.
    Last edited by Toffee; 09-15-2025, 03:37 PM.

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    • daggum
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      #22
      fight the ortiz jr ennis winner at 154

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #23
        Originally posted by Toffee

        I reckon he's a bit too serious to entertain a freak show fight with Paul or Floyd. Even Manny.

        Canelo again makes sense. Other than that there's no-one within range that's worth fighting for him.

        Fighting Bivol might be a bridge too far. Bivol is a true light heavyweight and taller /longer. I just wonder whether he might be considering it though. It's probably the only remotely possible fight that enhances his legacy.

        Tank isn't going to come up in weight for them to meet. Won't happen. And I'm not sure it does much for Bud anyway - he'd be unbackable as a favourite.
        If he can get The Bivol/Bieterbiev winner at 168 for all the belts in both SMW and LHW divisions he might do that.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Toffee

          I reckon he's a bit too serious to entertain a freak show fight with Paul or Floyd. Even Manny.

          Canelo again makes sense. Other than that there's no-one within range that's worth fighting for him.

          Fighting Bivol might be a bridge too far. Bivol is a true light heavyweight and taller /longer. I just wonder whether he might be considering it though. It's probably the only remotely possible fight that enhances his legacy.

          Tank isn't going to come up in weight for them to meet. Won't happen. And I'm not sure it does much for Bud anyway - he'd be unbackable as a favourite.
          Crawford is very cognizant of his own legacy and history. I think a fight at 160 appeals to him, and it's a hill he hasn't climbed yet.

          He's already one of just six men to be a 5 division world titlist, but the list of 6 division titlists right now is just Manny and Oscar.

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          • DeLorean
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            #25
            move up to 175 and fight bivol or benavidez

            retire

            do exhibition fights

            theres nobody from 147 to 160 that would move the needle

            or they can cash out with a canelo rematch, easy win

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              #26
              Originally posted by DeLorean
              move up to 175 and fight bivol or benavidez

              retire

              do exhibition fights

              theres nobody from 147 to 160 that would move the needle

              or they can cash out with a canelo rematch, easy win
              If he picks up a belt at 160 he's just the third six division world titlist in history after Manny and Oscar.
              If he picks up a lineal title at 160 he's the only man in the history of the sport with a universally recognized lineal claim in 5 divisions (Pac's lineal claim at 147 is disputed).
              If he picks up the undisputed title at 160 he's the only man in the history of the sport with undisputed status in 4 weights

              Regardless of the opponents, there is still a big possible expansion of his legacy at 160.

              As of now he's:
              One of 6 five division world titlists (Hearns, Leonard, De La Hoya, Floyd, Manny, Crawford)
              One of 3 four division lineal champions (Floyd, Manny, Crawford)
              One of 5 three division undisputed champs (Fitzsimmons, Ross, Canzoneri, Armstrong, Crawford) and the only in the WBA/WBC era

              It would only take two fights if Turki gets behind the idea. Fight one of the belt holders, match the other two together on the undercard, winner vs winner and 160 is sorted out.

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                #27
                Originally posted by famicommander

                Crawford is very cognizant of his own legacy and history. I think a fight at 160 appeals to him, and it's a hill he hasn't climbed yet.

                He's already one of just six men to be a 5 division world titlist, but the list of 6 division titlists right now is just Manny and Oscar.
                Very true, a title at 160 is on the record books forever. Though looking at the fights at 160 it would be a pretty underwhelming event.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Toffee

                  Very true, a title at 160 is on the record books forever. Though looking at the fights at 160 it would be a pretty underwhelming event.
                  That's why I want to see Janibek vs Adames first. Let the winner hopefully get a little hype behind them. And let Crawford give Lara his retirement payday on the same card, then do winner vs winner.

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                    #29
                    In my opinion? If Terrence Crawford sticks around at 168 pounds 'there is a high possibility, that a fighter who is just super strong, durable and determined could beat him. Even though skill for skill Crawford may be better than most fighters at 168 pounds, he has just beat a version of Canelo Alvarez who's endurance in my opinion appeared worst than ever. This is the first time in the aftermath of a fight, where I have seen Canelo Alvarez reference his own performance very critically. By stating that, he tried to pick up the pace vs Crawford but was unable to achieve that'.

                    Before this fight, or many months ago when it was being speculated. I liked the idea of Terrence Crawford fighting at 160 pounds vs ether of the champions in those divisions. And if Chris Eubank Junior wins his second fight and rematch vs Conor Benn II, there is another potential mega fight for Terrence Crawford'.

                    Note: Canelo Alvarez has been a great champion, and influence in the game 'and I think because he has been a champion for such a long time. If Alvarez wants the rematch vs Crawford II, then he deserves a chance to win his titles back. Throughout the history of boxing, no great champions have just disappeared after one loss. Many have all ether be given the opportunity to win their titles back, or they have pursued rematches'.

                    Canelo Alvarez was well beaten by Terrence Crawford, but he was not beaten up or at any point on the verge of being stopped 'and in my opinion he was pushing Terrence Crawford during the rounds to a certain extent'.

                    To conclude: Terrence Crawford has won many titles in his career, but he is still not a bigger or more influential fighter than Canelo Alvarez 'this fight was Crawford's first real mega fight. Therefore I don't really think even in his position now? Crawford has the same influence on the game like Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua or Canelo Alvarez'.

                    If Terrence Crawford continues to fight on, a rematch vs Canelo Alvarez II or a title fight at 160 pounds 'are great moves for him. And they are all winnable fights, for him which can potentially happen in the future' etc.


                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 09-16-2025, 09:00 AM.

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                    • t_dirtydizzawg
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                      #30
                      Seems like settling in at 160 and making some noise there would be the next logical step if he plans on fighting a handful of fights yet.

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