"Real" thoughts on Canelo-Crawford?

[Smash]

a large majority of boxing fans understood that errol spence was on his death bed,

blind in on eye, and possibly drugged full of painkillers on the night of the fight. that is crawfords claim to fame

everyone noticed sometinhg was off with spence. crawford celebrating that win was on the level of vitor belfort "stopping" 60 yr old holyfield and acting like he just beat a prime version for the hw championship. really disgusting.

boxing fans saw that, canelo saw it too.

spence looked like a zombie even on the ring walk v bud, totally zonked out, that was weird alrite

[daggum]

until proven otherwise TBud is a good but not great chin

legendary 9/10 chin = Saul
great 8/10 chin = Bivol
good 7/10 chin = TBud

6/10 chin 5/10 chin Roy Jones Tommy Hearns

bad 4/10 chin = Amir

if khan has a 4 out of 10 chin who has a 1? well eric crumble but hes not a real boxer

[SouthpawRight]

Has Top Soviet Doughmitry Buddah Belly Bivol ever been dropped? If not, I'd give him a 10/10 GOD chin given that he is the only man to survive 2 fights with Buff Guy Russian-Chechen Final Boss Artur!

never been dropped

only two time Bivol’s legs became WOBBLY were from Joe Smith Jr overhand rights

An overhand in round 4 which Bivol immediately responded to with a tactical clinch

and another overhand in round 10 that caught Bivol surprised at the round end bell

Russian-Chechen Final Boss Buff Guy Artur hurt Bivol but the damage only went as far as unsteady legs for a moment

Bivol took like 4 Artur crosses. Artur times Bivol’s right from a 1-2 with his own right

so far Artur has caught Bivol on the eye cheek or temple area but never the actual chin

Let see if Bivol can completely neutralize this counter right in trilogy

But I credit Bivol very great 8.5/10 defense to him having never been dropped or out vs Artur

this Bivol is near defensive wizard and black in the legs. If Bivol was black upstairs too like his countryman Pirog, he’d be a defensive wizard

hard to rank great defenders chin beyond 8 or 8.5. These Floyd Bivol types seldom get hit and rarely flush when it does happen

Bivol defense and chin makes him the next most durable fighter in boxing today after Saul

he also takes Artur body hooks better than Big Ukrainian Boi Usyk

[icha]

crawford is going to be 15 pounds heavier, but not stronger, and that will be his downfall, he will be slower and with less stamina, on top of that his power wasnt a factor at 154, let alone at 168 vs the best chin on the business, canelo by stopage late on the fight, round 9...

[real raw]

My logical arguments

1. Crawford is no spring chicken
2. Crawford's inactivity
3. Crawford's unknowns (he's never had to dig deep)
4. Alleged skills gap is not that wide (if it exists at all)
5. Size matters
6. Canelo has fought (and defeated) light-heavyweights
7. Power difference

I just don't see Crawford overcoming these hurdles

[SouthpawRight]

My logical arguments

1. Crawford is no spring chicken
2. Crawford's inactivity
3. Crawford's unknowns (he's never had to dig deep)
4. Alleged skills gap is not that wide (if it exists at all)
5. Size matters
6. Canelo has fought (and defeated) light-heavyweights
7. Power difference

I just don't see Crawford overcoming these hurdles

ouch if TBud is ring rusted

[Elastic Recoilz]

Crawford is looking to make HISTORY by becoming the first undisputed champion in 3 weight classes by beating Canelo. However, in my opinion, there are a few overriding factors that will prevent this from happening:-

1) Canelo is the current Vegas cash cow and #1 PPV draw in boxing (and has been since Mayweather retired) and is therefore PROTECTED e.g. getting a draw scorecard against Mayweather, getting a draw and victory over Golovkin when most people thought he lost the fight etc. In fact, even though Bivol landed nearly DOUBLE the number of punches, he was only awarded victory by the slimmest of margins (115-113 on all 3 scorecards).

2) Crawford is not only fighting for one world title but for 'all the marbles' and will therefore have to beat Canelo convincingly. If he has another close call as per the Madrimov fight, I don't believe he'll be awarded the victory given that Super Middleweight is Canelo's most dominant weight class.

3) I don't believe the 'powers that be' that run boxing WANT Crawford to make history and become the first undisputed champion in 3 weight classes even if he does win clearly!

Therefore, all things considered, I'm predicting a close points victory for Canelo.

Turki has already alluded to a possible rematch if Bud wins - it would be a monstrous money fight for all involved. Bud should be getting the decision if he out-performs Canelo, which I think he will. The first 5 rounds will be most dangerous for him but he should survive it. From that point he will grow into the fight and Canelo will start to gas with less and less pop on his shots. I think Crawford will really expose the slowness of Canelo's feet and has the quicker hands of the two. I also think his power will carry up to 168lbs as he is a spiteful puncher who punches through the target

[Quiksilva]

I've added a poll boys, feel free to do your votes on who you think is going to win.

[HisExcellency]

never been dropped

only two time Bivol’s legs became WOBBLY were from Joe Smith Jr overhand rights

An overhand in round 4 which Bivol immediately responded to with a tactical clinch

and another overhand in round 10 that caught Bivol surprised at the round end bell

Russian-Chechen Final Boss Buff Guy Artur hurt Bivol but the damage only went as far as unsteady legs for a moment

Bivol took like 4 Artur crosses. Artur times Bivol’s right from a 1-2 with his own right

so far Artur has caught Bivol on the eye cheek or temple area but never the actual chin

Let see if Bivol can completely neutralize this counter right in trilogy

But I credit Bivol very great 8.5/10 defense to him having never been dropped or out vs Artur

this Bivol is near defensive wizard and black in the legs. If Bivol was black upstairs too like his countryman Pirog, he’d be a defensive wizard

hard to rank great defenders chin beyond 8 or 8.5. These Floyd Bivol types seldom get hit and rarely flush when it does happen

Bivol defense and chin makes him the next most durable fighter in boxing today after Saul

he also takes Artur body hooks better than Big Ukrainian Boi Usyk

If he's NEVER been dropped then you have to give Top Soviet Doughmitry Buddah Belly Bivol a 10/10 GOD level chin for the simple fact that he's the only fighter to make it out alive with Buff Guy Russian-Chechen Final Boss Artur twice. Nobody else has ever done that. In comparison, Beterbiev has already been knocked down a couple of times in his career.

As for his lack of power, it's true that he only has a 50% KO ratio (which is surprising given his size and technique) but he also has enough power to keep his opponents at bay as per the Beterbiev and Buff Guy Cinnamon Cartel Chief Canelo fights.

[t_dirtydizzawg]

I have no problem going on record saying that I think Crawford wins this fight, so that's my pick.