Usyk went life and death with Benidorm Pudding Fury- Itauma can't be written off

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  • Smash
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    #71
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL






    I would back both Tyson Fury, and Anthony Joshua in a trilogy fight against Uysk 'And I don't think for one second that Oleksandr Uysk would dominant Joseph Parker' etc.

    hugh grant
    lol if u backed AJ and Fury v usyk you would lose money, surely that has been proven by now, well to most people it has anyway!

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      #72
      - - Watching single digit IQs dropping en masse...priceless!!!

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        #73
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

        Oleksandr Uysk has one decisive win at Heavyweight vs Daniel Dubois II 'and as a Cruiserweight Champion, again? He was not the most dominant or formidable fighter. The only fighter he was able to knock out was a completely dead at the weight Toney Bellew. At the time of the stoppage, two of the judges had Bellew winning and one judge had the fight completely level'.
        It seems like you only consider a KO a decisive win. I - and I assume the majority of people - have a different opinion; a UD can be just as decisive as a KO. For me, Joshua 1 and Fury 2 were decisive wins, where Usyk did not struggle one bit, was never in danger. He pushed through with his game plan, and had success.

        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

        Note: You can think what you want, but the reality is? All you are doing is Mollycoddling Oleksandr Uysk. With your altitude of 'awwww but look he was outweighed by so many pounds, and he had to fight all those fighters away from home. Who cares seriously? That does not get away from the fact that he was pushed right to the line by a miles outside of his peak Derek Chisora, and on the verge of retirement after each fight vs Tyson Fury I & II and Anthony Joshua I & II'
        Pushed to the line by winning a UD, not being knocked down or anything - just because Chisroa tried to bully him in the first 2 rounds?
        And "on the verge of retirement" after each Joshua and Fury fight? That is totally made up, and particularly nonsensical given the fact that he was contractually bound to give a rematch after the first Fury and first Joshua fights - he never tried to walk away from those. But feel free to provide any kind of proof for that.

        To my knowledge, all he ever said about was (directly post fight) that he wanted to have a rest now and spend time with his family - a very sensible statement. At one point, unrelated to the Fury and Joshua fights, he also stated that he thinks he has about 2 fights left, and that he sometimes thinks about retirement, because he achieved everything that he wanted to achieve at HW.

        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL


        Oleksandr Uysk has only had one fight this year 'And like I stated in my first post, that one fight against a fighter in Daniel Dubois II who is a front runner at top level. That one fight, has almost completely written him off for 2025'.

        No matter what you say, no matter how hard to try 'You are not going to convince me, or any boxing analyst that knows the sport. That Oleksandr Uysk is a formidable fighter, in the same way that Mike Tyson, Roy Jones or even Lennox Lewis was in his peak form',
        I am not trying to convince you of anything, because neither your, nor my, opinion matters the least bit in terms of boxing history. The history books will state that Usyk came up to HW as an undisputed CW champion, and against all odds, beat the top HWs at the time, to become the first undisputed HW since Lennox Lewis. Those are the facts, like them or not.

        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
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        The media has over exaggerated Oleksandr Uysk wins over Daniel Dubois I & II 'Because it was a very unusual manner for a Uysk win. He actually knocked another top level fighter out or did he? Maybe Dubois's trait of being a front runner just surfaced. The rounds more than anything beat Dubois'.
        I don't care what the media say, or don't say - Dubois was not a top level opponent, and the win, KO or not, was not great in my opinion. Solid, yes, but at this point in time, Dubois, though heavy handed, is not on the same level on which Fury or prime Joshua were when they fought Usyk. Maybe Dubois will be top level one day, he is still relatively young - maybe he can work on his mental weakness, because he quit in both fights.

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