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  • #21
    Whyte deserves the benefit of the doubt as far as PED's. Way more than Itauma deserves the benefit of the doubt as far as being the next great heavily ranked British champ in waiting.

    Wardley, Delboy and even Sniffles would test YungMo out before even thinking of Usyk and the Mighty Oilskin Parker!

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    • #22
      We've seen the speed of Itauma's hooks but I'm struggling to picture his uppercut game.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Toffee View Post

        I feel like every time a fighter comes in surprisingly heavy you get people arguing that they'll be better equipped to absorb punches, or they'll hit harder, or be able to lean on their opponent... or claims that they're just wearing a heavy sombrero (Ruiz) or weights in their leather jacket (Fury).
        Almost always it just means they're in worse shape and that plays out in the fight.

        Better shape is better condition.

        Whyte is still a big man and he's still the bigger man in that ring. His conditioning probably just means he's had a good camp, pushed himself, and is in good shape for the fight.

        Good on him.

        Sometimes it is true. Because? Fighters like Tyson Fury and Derek Chisora, who throughout the majority of their careers 'have carried more bloon weight than other fighters. When a fighter with that body type, dramatically alters their body composition and drops masses of weight just for one fight. It can weaken their durability and endurance'.

        Because their bodies have not had enough time to physiologically acclimatize to their new condition 'This is a real thing in sports performance. Fighters like Derek Chisora and Tyson Fury are sometimes better off eating burgers and pies. And slowly just gradually altering their training routines, in terms of intensity and frequency'.

        Most of the time when fighters who have for many years 'not had the best work ethic, they suddenly decided to go 180 degrees with their lifestyle. It backfires badly, on fight night inside the boxing ring. We have seen this many times before, most notably with Ricky Hatton during his comeback fight vs Vyacheslav Senchenko'.

        Note: It happened to Derek Chisora in his rematch with Dillian Whyte II 'Chisora was over trained in that fight, and? That was the very first fight, were his durability really did not look super great. And I honestly don't think Chisora since that fight, has ever in terms of brute strength and durability regained his former level of invulnerability'.

        Just 6 to 7 years prior Derek Chisora's durability and endurance was one of his best attributes, this was displayed vs Vitali Kiltschko'. David Haye was the first heavyweight fighter to meet force with force and cancel out Chisora's momentum, knocking him out in the 5th round. But I don't think that was due to Chisora's conditioning being under-par, he just come into contact with the last real solid version of David Haye'.

        Professional body builders are at their absolute physiologically weakest when they are 'Cutting weight to compete in a contest. And it is similar situation in the sport of boxing, the lower weight classes certain modern day fighters negatively affect their condition by weight draining themselves. And in the heavyweight divisions, fighters with historically bad work ethic surprisingly? Can negatively affect their performance and overall condition by suddenly decided to go from 0 to 100 miles a hour in training'.

        To conclude: Is Dillian Whyte in this same sort of situation? Has he been playing around with ketogenic diets to dupe unformed viewers? A Ketogenic diet may get a fighter lean, but it is not going to improve an athlete's Aerobic capacity, Speed endurance, Brute strength and Power. That is what real hardcore training is for in a boxers regime'.

        Hopefully Dillian Whyte has been training for a long duration in preparation to fight 'And was already in fight condition, at the start of his actual fight camp'. If? That is how he has approached this fight, then I think his condition will be improved from his last few fights'.

        But if he has gone from 0 to 100 miles a hour, and combined this with sub-optimal nutritional intake 'Especially for a heavyweight fighter. He may suffer on fight night' etc.









        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-16-2025, 08:55 AM.
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        • #24
          Did Dillian Shyte get in good shape naturally? Or did he use PEDs to do it?

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          • #25
            I feel like nobody should be rooting for Whyte - he is a proven drug cheat - unless, that is, you condone PED use in boxing and if that's the case you are not a sports fan you just like guys knocking bits off each other - which is ok too - but best to know the difference.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
              Did Dillian Shyte get in good shape naturally? Or did he use PEDs to do it?
              I'd like to think team Itauma would have insisted on drugs testing 3 months prior to fight but Whyte could have been on PEDs from a year ago and cycled off by now

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              • #27
                Originally posted by SteveM View Post
                I feel like nobody should be rooting for Whyte - he is a proven drug cheat - unless, that is, you condone PED use in boxing and if that's the case you are not a sports fan you just like guys knocking bits off each other - which is ok too - but best to know the difference.
                Are you really that much of a sheep thqt you just beleive the ones that get caught are cheating??

                Theyre all on something and Ituamas head screams human growth hormone.

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                • #28
                  I really hope Whyte manages to take him to DEEP waters and tests the kids heart, chin and toughness but somehow I doubt it!

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post

                    Are you really that much of a sheep thqt you just beleive the ones that get caught are cheating??

                    Theyre all on something and Ituamas head screams human growth hormone.
                    I don't believe 100% are on PEDS - but certainly maybe 30-60% are. But innocent until caught. Can't be rooting against fighters just because they MIGHT be on something.
                    Itauma - he has got a big head - but so have I - and I've never touched PEDs

                    Also - wouldn't his body be in better shape if he was on HGH? He's not musclle bound and he has a paunch.
                    Last edited by SteveM; 08-16-2025, 12:25 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Bennyleonard99 View Post
                      Whyte is vastly underrated. He should have been WBC champ for years but Wilder ducked him and rigged the WBC to block mandatory Whyte because he knew it was a guaranteed loss. Whyte is underestimated. Then Fury tried like hell to duck him but was forced into it and needed a lucky uppercut to beat him. Itauma better be ready for life and death, this will be a profound test for him. If he passes decisively, we know Itauma is the next one.
                      Whyte ducked eliminators that is why he was not made mandatory till Rivas fight then went and popped dirty for that fight and hid it from the wbc and his opponents. A fraud. Then he ducked Wallin to wait on the Fury shot and when he got the Fury title shot he literally did nothing, 0 threat and then night night it was another uppercut to his chin

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