Why is Wilder back in hiding?

[Hustle]

Wilder beat his tomato can this summer and talked big about fighting the best but the reality is the big fraud has gone back into hiding. Not a peep about challenging Joshua - who needs a fight - or any other free name. You would think Wilder would be more pro active trying to make a big fight, not in hiding. Looks like Haymon and Finkel are waiting to cash out the big bum against someone marquee.

After his last fight, Wilder said he's fighting 1 or 2 more tune up type fights rather than taking a big fight next.

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5:30 mark. Facts over narratives

[Zelda]

Nonsense. If Haymon and Finkel had any confidence in their big bird legged fraud they would have accepted that $120m Hearn offer and fought Joshua. But instead they ran away and told lies. The truth about Wilder was revealed when he ducked mandatory Whyte for two years and got clobbered by a 45 year old China man.

Dillian was never mandatory for Wilder for 2 years. Tells me how much you know about boxing and how much you rely on Eddie's propaganda.

PEDillian Whyte, the serial cheater, pissed dirty again against Rivas (like he had done previously against Balogh and later in life again against Joshua) and was suspended from his interim position until Eddie had UKAD magically withdraw charges. He was then made mandatory to fight the winner of Wilder vs Fury 2, which was Wilder's mandatory fight at that time. Wilder lost that, and Whyte had to fight Fury.

Prior to that, Whyte had avoided Ortiz, which would have made him the next mandatory challenger (after Breazeale). Instead, Eddie's chosen Rivas was suddenly elevated from nowhere to the top 10, and then lobbied for Whyte-Rivas to be considered a final eliminator, which it wasn't at the beginning. So, as I mentioned, lots of shady stuff, and promoters being rivals rather than cooperating during that era to make fights.

The offer, as I mentioned before, was not from Eddie and not just for an AJ fight based on splits from the highest bidder's platform. It was a rivalry between the then-new entrant DAZN and existing PBC/Showtime in the US, and an attempt to get Wilder away from his existing partners over to DAZN. It is like Netflix or Prime nowadays, offering AJ/Eddie to ditch existing partnerships/contracts with the Saudis and DAZN, and move to their platform for a 3 or 4 fight deal only for AJ.

[Bennyleonard99]

Dillian was never mandatory for Wilder for 2 years. Tells me how much you know about boxing and how much you rely on Eddie's propaganda.

PEDillian Whyte, the serial cheater, pissed dirty again against Rivas (like he had done previously against Balogh and later in life again against Joshua) and was suspended from his interim position until Eddie had UKAD magically withdraw charges. He was then made mandatory to fight the winner of Wilder vs Fury 2, which was Wilder's mandatory fight at that time. Wilder lost that, and Whyte had to fight Fury.

Prior to that, Whyte had avoided Ortiz, which would have made him the next mandatory challenger (after Breazeale). Instead, Eddie's chosen Rivas was suddenly elevated from nowhere to the top 10, and then lobbied for Whyte-Rivas to be considered a final eliminator, which it wasn't at the beginning. So, as I mentioned, lots of shady stuff, and promoters being rivals rather than cooperating during that era to make fights.

The offer, as I mentioned before, was not from Eddie and not just for an AJ fight based on splits from the highest bidder's platform. It was a rivalry between the then-new entrant DAZN and existing PBC/Showtime in the US, and an attempt to get Wilder away from his existing partners over to DAZN. It is like Netflix or Prime nowadays, offering AJ/Eddie to ditch existing partnerships/contracts with the Saudis and DAZN, and move to their platform for a 3 or 4 fight deal only for AJ.

Whyte was no. 1 for Wilder for a while. Haymon tried to protect Wilder by throwing Ortiz at Whyte but Whyte and Hearn wanted Wilder, not a time waster vs the PBC pawn Ortiz. Wilder would have had no chance vs Whyte.

Even if Whyte beat Ortiz, Haymon would have rigged Sulaiman to do something to block Whyte again. Breazeale was a joke PBC pawn.

[Zelda]

Whyte was no. 1 for Wilder for a while. Haymon tried to protect Wilder by throwing Ortiz at Whyte but Whyte and Hearn wanted Wilder, not a time waster vs the PBC pawn Ortiz. Wilder would have had no chance vs Whyte.

Even if Whyte beat Ortiz, Haymon would have rigged Sulaiman to do something to block Whyte again. Breazeale was a joke PBC pawn.

As I said, you don't know much about boxing. No. 1 ranked is NOT equal to mandatory, unless you fight and win a final eliminator (fight the next-ranked available guy) ordered by the WBC. Whyte never did that. Whyte avoided eliminators until he could choose someone selected by Eddie Hearn, whom we barely beat, and that too using PEDs, and then lobbied for that fight to be considered a final eliminator. Rivas was not the next best-ranked fight at that time, so essentially, Whyte got that position gifted to him. When Wilder fought Fury 2, Fury was the mandatory, and by the time Whyte became mandatory, Wilder was no longer the champion. So, it is another lie to say Whyte was no. 1 for Wilder "for a while".

Funny AJ and Eddie fans had Breazeale as a legitimately ranked fighter, showing the depth of AJ's resume at that time, but he is now a "joke PBC pawn" when he got KO'ed in the first round by Wilder. Why did it take AJ 7 rounds to deal with a joke PBC pawn? Took him another 7 rounds to deal with another joke called Robert Helenius, whom Wilder also KO'ed within a round.

And are we going to ignore that Whyte has now been caught 3 times using PEDs?

[VislorTurlough]

Wilder and Joshua both overrated and badly washed. Don’t be a fanboy and blow Joshua after he was humiliated by Dubois. Dunk on Wilder all you want - he’s earned it. But don’t get down on all fours to pleasure Eddie and push his laughable narrative

[Boxing 112]

Nonsense. If Haymon and Finkel had any confidence in their big bird legged fraud they would have accepted that $120m Hearn offer and fought Joshua. But instead they ran away and told lies. The truth about Wilder was revealed when he ducked mandatory Whyte for two years and got clobbered by a 45 year old China man.

AJ asked for 50m. 50m offered came. He refused = duck. Because he didn't want it to be a US fight. Yet then when to US to 'take over' to fight Ruiz got beat up by the fat boy and never uttered the words US fight ever again. Whyte is a 3 time ped fraud. He was never mandatory 2 years ducked his eliminators.

[Willow The Wisp]

Correction: Wilder ducked Joshua.

Two sides to every story.

Bannyleonard99 MUST be an alt for Daggum. There just can't be two newbie boxing fans who believe a whopper like that. Same High School?


Wilder was far(!) from a perfectly styled fighter with a deep resume; but he was busy knocking out everyone who the WBC could throw at him and stepping in with the linial champion THREE times to unify the 3 kings at the time (Joshua, Fury, Wilder); while Joshua was getting right-sized and kina... blown away, in his Prime; by Massive Underdogs.

You kids have to be honest; you were not privy to any negotiations between Wilder and Joshua, and you're pretend guessing about why the fight never came off. But clearly, when factoring chin, power, the awkward ability to connect, and demonstrated mental toughness; you couldn't Engineer a more perfect opponent for Deontay Wilder to look awesome against. No way he'd avoid that money-maker, in spite of all the blogger fables.


You might like Joshua better. You might believe that he took on tougher opponents, and I would agree that he did; but that doesn't change a thing.

Wilder makes Joshua tentative and nervious, survives him, finds him and sparks him out. Just like Ruiz and Dubois did; neither of whom have anything close to Wilder type one-punch knockout power.


21st Century Heavyweights (So Far):

1. Oleksandr Usyk, UKR
2. Wladimir Klitschko, UKR
3. Lennox Lewis, UK
4. Tyson Fury, UK
5. Deontay Wilder, US
6. Zhilei Zhang, CHI
7. Anthony Joshua, UK
8. Vitali Klitschko, UKR
9. Moses Itauma, UK
10. Joseph Parker, NZ
11. Daniel Dubois, UK
12. Andy Ruiz Jr, US
13. David Tua, AUS
14. Hasim Rahman, US
15. Joe Joyce, UK
16. Agit Kabayel, GER
17. Luis Ortiz, CUB
18. Dillian Whyte, UK
19. Alexander Povetkin, RUS
20. Chris Byrd, US
21. Jarrell Miller, US
22. Mike Tyson, US
23. Ruslan Chagaev, UZB
24. Corrie Sanders, SA
25. David Haye, UK

Just missing the cut:

Derrick Chisora, UK, Kubrat Pulev, BUL, Fabio Wardley, UK, Martin Bakole, CON, Chris Arreola, US, Oliver McCall, US, Lamon Brewster, US, Filip Hrgovic, CRO, Roy Jones Jr., US, Charles Martin, US, John Ruiz, US.

[Bennyleonard99]

Two sides to every story.

Bannyleonard99 MUST be an alt for Daggum. There just can't be two newbie boxing fans who believe a whopper like that. Same High School?


Wilder was far(!) from a perfectly styled fighter with a deep resume; but he was busy knocking out everyone who the WBC could throw at him and stepping in with the linial champion THREE times to unify the 3 kings at the time (Joshua, Fury, Wilder); while Joshua was getting right-sized and kina... blown away, in his Prime; by Massive Underdogs.

You kids have to be honest; you were not privy to any negotiations between Wilder and Joshua, and you're pretend guessing about why the fight never came off. But clearly, when factoring chin, power, the awkward ability to connect, and demonstrated mental toughness; you couldn't Engineer a more perfect opponent for Deontay Wilder to look awesome against. No way he'd avoid that money-maker, in spite of all the blogger fables.


You might like Joshua better. You might believe that he took on tougher opponents, and I would agree that he did; but that doesn't change a thing.

Wilder makes Joshua tentative and nervious, survives him, finds him and sparks him out. Just like Ruiz and Dubois did; neither of whom have anything close to Wilder type one-punch knockout power.


21st Century Heavyweights (So Far):

1. Oleksandr Usyk, UKR
2. Wladimir Klitschko, UKR
3. Lennox Lewis, UK
4. Tyson Fury, UK
5. Deontay Wilder, US
6. Zhilei Zhang, CHI
7. Anthony Joshua, UK
8. Vitali Klitschko, UKR
9. Moses Itauma, UK
10. Joseph Parker, NZ
11. Daniel Dubois, UK
12. Andy Ruiz Jr, US
13. David Tua, AUS
14. Hasim Rahman, US
15. Joe Joyce, UK
16. Agit Kabayel, GER
17. Luis Ortiz, CUB
18. Dillian Whyte, UK
19. Alexander Povetkin, RUS
20. Chris Byrd, US
21. Jarrell Miller, US
22. Mike Tyson, US
23. Ruslan Chagaev, UZB
24. Corrie Sanders, SA
25. David Haye, UK

Just missing the cut:

Derrick Chisora, UK, Kubrat Pulev, BUL, Fabio Wardley, UK, Martin Bakole, CON, Chris Arreola, US, Oliver McCall, US, Lamon Brewster, US, Filip Hrgovic, CRO, Roy Jones Jr., US, Charles Martin, US, John Ruiz, US.

Wilder ducked Joshua plain as day. Ducked the $120m offer from Hearn. Offered the bluff $50m but when asked for the contract, went into hiding. Wilder is nothing was nothing but a fraud propped up by a pair of crooks Haymon and Finkel. His legacy was getting thrashed by 45 year old China Man.

[Bennyleonard99]

Wilder got knocked out by a Wladimir jab in sparring and then later ducked a world title offer to face Wladimir. Joshua KOed Wladimir in one of the best hwt title fights ever. The writing on the wall is clear. Wilder was a total fraud pretender with a big mouth and a lousy scriptwriter. You got rope a doped by a fraud.