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    The Japan Boxing Commission has moved to allay safety fears about boxing in their country.
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  • #2
    I wonder how much dehydration can affect the environment of the brain ? Any ideas ?
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    • #3
      I don’t know if Japan does these things already, but the following are some good guidelines:
      • You gotta have qualified medical personnel and equipment at the fights, and be prepared in advance to rush people to the hospital when necessary.
      • Don’t allow lopsided mismatches. The fighters should generally be of the same skill level.
      • Have weight check ins and targets that must be met in the weeks leading up to the fight.
      • Have thorough pre-fight physical exams. Which include a review of the boxer’s past medical history.
      That should catch most issues before they become a tragedy.

      But realize that nothing is ever going to make boxing 100% safe, this is a dangerous sport.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart View Post
        I wonder how much dehydration can affect the environment of the brain ? Any ideas ?
        dehydration makes the brain shrink so it’s less well cushioned and can move more inside the skull. So when you’re hit you’re far more likely to have a haemorrhage.

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        • #5
          it is a thin line often times between a hard fought fight that due to conditions beyound the control of any body to or any authority to keep some tradgidies from accouring But i believe if anybody really wants to make adjustments to the fight game there are some "things" that could be done. You can not soften the blow of a punch or you cause more problems If they really wants answer's they can find some but they will not be easy to find. And there will always be those who suffer the worst consequences of the fight game. it is the nature of the game.

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          • #6
            This is a perfect reason why fighters who choose to learn the art of boxing (hit and not get hit) should never be criticized by anyone. We as fans have forgotten that boxing is an extremely brutal sport, where the participants can get seriously hurt. We should learn to appreciate the art of boxing at its purest form, where great skills are displayed and only the very best are allowed to compete. It's easy for someone who's never felt a blow to the face or body to criticize fighters who choose to learn the true art of the "Sweet Science", and therefore, preserve their health and life. Boxing is meant to be a sport where skill is used to entertain those who understand its intricacies.

            Its easy for someone with pockets full of money to say that they don't want to see "Tom and Jerry" fights. What do we say to that when tragedies like this occur because of making fighters not want to be placed in such category? Boxing is called a sport for a reason. It is meant to be enjoyed as a skillful event, where the participants are displaying fenomenal skill through the true art of BOXING, not simply fighting for the sake of trying to kill one another. We appreciate skills in all other sports, but we criticize really skillful fighters when they display their skills in the ring. It seems as though fighters are being forced into trying to kill each other in order for us to be "truly" entertained. The real science of boxing is being frowned upon as something boring because someone is not ending up in the emergency room after every performance or event. As a fan of the great sport and sweet science of boxing, I am ashamed for those who choose this form of thinking.

            My deepest condolences to the families of the two warriors who lost their lives doing what they loved, while trying to entertain their sick and sadistic fans. May their souls rest in eternal peace among other great warriors and practitioners of the sweet science of boxing. One love.
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            • #7
              They should have done this years ago.

              First and foremost, have trained professionals on hand with the proper equipment and practiced procedures in place for emergencies.

              I never, ever want to see a guy who is clearly in a grim state being propped up on a stool in the corner or propped up next to the ref to wait for a decision to be read again.

              I never want to see a limp, unconscious fighter try to be passed over the ropes by hand again.

              I never want to spend five minutes after a fight wondering where the paramedics are again.

              I never want to wonder why the hell a struggling fighter isn't getting an immediate oxygen mask again.

              I never want to see a fighter carried out on one of those soccer-style cloth stretchers by hand again. Strap them to a legitimate stretcher, remove the ropes if you have to, and wheel them out of the arena carefully and safely.

              I was absolutely floored when the same damn thing happened to Ginjiro Shigeoka twice in the same year against the same opponent. Lost consciousness after the fight, slow to get him medical attention, no oxygen mask, no plan for how to get him out of the ring, trying to pass his limp body over the ropes, waiting like 20 minutes to even put him on a board and carry him out of there.

              It's criminal that it has taken so many deaths and life-altering brain injuries in such a short span of time for them to do something.

              Japan is a highly advanced country and yet they seem to have better emergency protocols in place when they fight in third world countries. There's no excuse when they have better protocols in Costa Rica and Libya than freaking Japan.

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              • #8
                2 from one show feels like massively long odds. Practically impossible unless there's some causative factor.

                Personally I don't think "making weight' has any place in Boxing from a safety or sporting perspective. At times, the lower weight classes are like an episode of the Biggest Loser. Best extreme weight loss wins.

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                • #9
                  Agree with all of the points above. Someone mentioned how this stoopid Turki dude is waving around money and shaming, buying and financially threatening fighters to beat the hell outta each other for 'entertainment' and the satisfaction of viewers. He's no good for the sport in those regards.

                  As far as the athletic commissions and their responses...all I remember is Maxim Dadashev limping, flailing and ultimately carried out on a stretcher after the Matias fight was stopped. Dude vomited everywhere and no one seemed to move fast enough to assist him. Yes, the commissions need to have a better plan in place, regardless of the State, Country or fighter involved.

                  What I've learned from boxing over the past 25 years of viewing is that fans are never satisfied. They beg for fights and won't pay. They'll get the big fights, complain and beg for the next fight before the post-fight press conference even takes place. Do what's best for the fighters first and be sure they're safe and ready to perform, screw the fans and what they say they want.
                  Last edited by MeanestNiceGuy; Yesterday, 06:22 PM.
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                  • #10
                    What are the chances of this? 2 fighters who fought the same night same card and both die due to the same cause.

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