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  • #41
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

    Sasakul missing from Pacquaio’s list.

    Margarito, Broner, Matthysee, Rios, Vargas I’d remove from Pacquaio’s list.
    Vargas Horn Lucas Broner was manny’s cherry spree

    and it worked

    those two easy years limited the punishment allowing manny to prolong his career

    ultimately achieving longevity

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    • #42
      Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
      Vargas Horn Lucas Broner was manny’s cherry spree

      and it worked

      those two easy years limited the punishment allowing manny to prolong his career

      ultimately achieving longevity
      Did floyd request CW with.nelo, as he wanted to prolong his career another 10 years, like pac did with cotto? No, it was more to keep zero, floyd was getting out of sport ASAP

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post

        There isn't really a debate here. A quitter cannot be higher than Manny all time.
        A quitter because Omar Torrijos's brother bet against him in the second fight?

        That is what truly happened.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by eco1 View Post

          A quitter because Omar Torrijos's brother bet against him in the second fight?

          That is what truly happened.
          That doesn't make it any better even IF that was true. Quitter.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

            Esteban DeJesus is in the HOF, so is Ken Buchanan who you left out. A long with a list of Top 5-10 ranked Lightweights.

            Cuevas and Palomino as you mentioned, two top WW’s.

            He beat Davey Moore in his at Jr Middlweight, after starting his career as a Bantamweight, as a big underdog to win that belt.

            And then of course he beat an undefeated Sugar Ray Leonard.

            So to ask “who did he beat” is just a very wild thing to ask.
            i am pretty sure esteban is not in the IBHOF. actually, looking at the list of inductees on the IBHOF website, it seems kind of small. if you've ever been to canastota and have read every single plaque on the wall, you'd think there were way more inductees. you could spend hours and hours in that little museum!

            dejesus is in some halls of fame, but not that one, to my knowledge. he should be in there. i would guess he's not due to the controversies outside the ring.

            davey moore has some good wins over ayub kalule and wilfred benitez, and good shout out on ken buchanan. i'm certainly not saying duran is a bum and never beat anyone, i just think pacquiao has accomplished more and there might be some bias since i watched his career in real-time.

            i do think head to head at 135 or 147 it's a hell of a match-up that could go either way

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post

              That doesn't make it any better even IF that was true. Quitter.
              Let someone tell you you and your whole family are done if you don't follow the steps and we shall see...Bigmouth

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              • #47
                Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
                Vargas Horn Lucas Broner was manny’s cherry spree

                and it worked

                those two easy years limited the punishment allowing manny to prolong his career

                ultimately achieving longevity
                El Chino disagree.

                Jesse Vargas was the WBO welterweight champ

                Jeff Horn was the WBO Inter-Continental welterweight champ

                Lucas Matthysse was the WBA welterweight champ

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by NarcosMaidana View Post

                  El Chino disagree.

                  Jesse Vargas was the WBO welterweight champ

                  Jeff Horn was the WBO Inter-Continental welterweight champ

                  Lucas Matthysse was the WBA welterweight champ
                  yes beltholders in modern times that’s diluted with championships

                  Lower level contenders

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
                    yes beltholders in modern times that’s diluted with championships

                    Lower level contenders
                    Still belt holders nonetheless, all those fighters mentioned were champion at the time Pacquiao faced them. You can't fault a fighter for picking easy opponents who are belt holders. Remember this famous slogan, "fight smarter, not harder". Does this only applies to certain fighters?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
                      yes beltholders in modern times that’s diluted with championships

                      Lower level contenders
                      Jesse Vargas WBO welterweight champ - 2016 (Who should have Pacquiao fought)?

                      Jeff Horn WBO Inter-Continental welterweight champ - 2017 (Who should have Pacquiao fought)?

                      Lucas Matthysse WBA (Regular) welterweight champ - 2018 (Who should have Pacquiao fought)?

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