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Originally posted by SouthpawRight
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They didn't want their cash cow to die in the ring
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TR wouldn't let Pac anywhere near Bud
They didn't want their cash cow to die in the ring
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El Pacquiao.Comment
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Manny was more successful over a longer period of time. Duran's last significant win was at age 37 against Barkley, winning the MW title. Manny at 37 beat Bradley and Vargas. At 39 Matthysse, at 40 Broner and Thurman, at 46 a draw with Barrios. Champion in 8 weight classes vs. 4 for Duran. Duran's single greatest win was a prime Leonard at 147. Manny's single greatest win is arguable...Barrera, Morales, Cotto, Thurman? Leonard is obviously greater than all of them so Duran would have the edge for single greatest win. Manny defeated 22 world champions and 7 HOFers, Duran defeated Manny would have the edge in just about every other aspect.
Duran best wins:
Buchanan
De Jesus x2
Palomino
Leonard
Cuevas
Moore
Barkley
Pacquiao best wins:
Barrera x2
Marquez x2
Morales x2
Larios
Hatton
Cotto
Clottey
Margarito
Bradley x2
Rios
Vargas
Matthysse
Broner
Thurman
Oscar was past prime but was also the favorite to win.
First draw with Marquez was scored incorrectly and should be a win for Manny. First fight with Bradley a blatant robbery on the scorecard. Horn loss also a robbery.
Duran claimed to have injured his hand around the 5th round in his fight with Hagler. Could that have made the difference in a very close fight? He was arguably robbed in the first Camacho and Pazienza fights.
With all of these stats what does that mean? In a head to head fight it's close and competitive. Much lesser fighters than Manny took Duran the distance at LW. Duran had one big win at welter and struggled to make the weight after the Leonard rematch. Too close to call IMO.
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Freddy roach said pac was best he ever trained and he trained them all. That sums it up really. JMM said pac is without doubt the best pf p fighter this era. Duran may have been of his day tooOriginally posted by The Big Dunce View PostLast edited by hugh grant; Yesterday, 12:55 PM.Comment
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Sugar Leonard and Roberto both top 10Originally posted by The Big Dunce View Post
Floyd knocking on the door right at the 11th slotComment
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Pacquiao "best" wins:Originally posted by The Big Dunce View Post
Barrera x2 (prototypical Pac opp. Slow and not so difficult to hit)
Marquez x2 (see Barrera)
Morales x2 (questionable W's. I can't believe Pac needed 4 fights with him)
Larios (who ?)
Hatton (....and ?)
Cotto (lite)
Clottey (....and ?)
Margarito (shot AF)
Bradley x2 (meh. Ruslan nearly killed him)
Rios (so )
Vargas (so )
Matthysse (so )
Broner (you gotta be kidding )
Thurman (that flash KD saved him)
Oscar was beyond shot
The bold, doe !!!!!!
Duran eats them up
No need for judges
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
He's Pac's 3rd biggest fan
We all know who Pac's 2 biggest fans areComment
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Outside of the best opponents I named for Duran, who else did he beat that was better than Cotto, Margarito, Rios, Vargas, Broner, Larios, Hatton, Clottey??? you dismissed all of them but didn't offer any objective reasoning. It was just conjecture and borderline trolling.Originally posted by TheProudLunatic View Post
Pacquiao "best" wins:
Barrera x2 (prototypical Pac opp. Slow and not so difficult to hit)
Marquez x2 (see Barrera)
Morales x2 (questionable W's. I can't believe Pac needed 4 fights with him)
Larios (who ?)
Hatton (....and ?)
Cotto (lite)
Clottey (....and ?)
Margarito (shot AF)
Bradley x2 (meh. Ruslan nearly killed him)
Rios (so )
Vargas (so )
Matthysse (so )
Broner (you gotta be kidding )
Thurman (that flash KD saved him)
Oscar was beyond shot
The bold, doe !!!!!!
Duran eats them up
No need for judgesComment
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If you consider the names you mentioned to be quality (WHEN HE FOUGHT THEM), then there's no logical debate to be hadOriginally posted by The Big Dunce View Post
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Sasakul missing from Pacquaio’s list.Originally posted by The Big Dunce View Post
Margarito, Broner, Matthysee, Rios, Vargas I’d remove from Pacquaio’s list.Comment
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