Who is greater all time: Pac or Duran

[TheProudLunatic]

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or

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[TheIronMike]

Its gotta be Duran, he has more definitive victories and faced absolute MONSTERS.

Additionally, he clears prime Pac in a head to head matchup.

Both are Top 12 ATGs, Duran being in the Top 7

[TheProudLunatic]

[TheProudLunatic]

Pac Bois have NOTHING TO SAY

Would they follow their leader and RUN AWAY from RANdom blood tests

We all know the shameful answer

[Boxing 112]

Pac Bois have NOTHING TO SAY

Would they follow their leader and RUN AWAY from RANdom blood tests

We all know the shameful answer

There isn't really a debate here. A quitter cannot be higher than Manny all time.

[gauze]

aside from leonard, who did duran really beat? esteban de jesus (who beat duran the first time, should we call him an ATG, i don't even think he's in the hall of fame), carlos palomino, pipino cuevas, iran barkley? i would rate pacquiao higher on the 8 division accomplishment alone. i'm not sure 135 duran beats 135 pacquiao

[hugh grant]

The four kings duran, srl,hearns,hagler= duran x1 wins/4 losses
The four kings pac, barrera, morales, jmm= Pac x7 wins/2 losses

Pac more successful

[Malvado]

The four kings duran, srl,hearns,hagler= duran x1 wins/4 losses
The four kings pac, barrera, morales, jmm= Pac x7 wins/2 losses

Pac more successful

To be fair, unlike Pacquiao, Duran was at notable size disadvantage against Hearns and Hagler, yet gave a pretty great fight against Hagler and beat Barkley when Roberto was quite in the downslide. It be like Pacquiao going 15 rounds with a prime Golovkin and winning about 6-7 rounds, his opponent just edging it. Pacquiao was at a size disadvantage at 147-154, but don't think he was fighting champions of that caliber in Bradley, Ugas, and Thurman. He dominantly kicked Margarito's cheating ass but took punishment for it. Cotto and De La Hoya were also out of their prime.

Not saying his legacy is that much greater than Pacquiao who went from 108 to 154 actually besting more legends and prime former world champions, but Duran also has wins over championship level fighters like Saoul Mamby, Guts Ishimatsu, Vilomar Fernandez, Esteban De Jesus X2, Ken Buchanan, Pipino Cuevas, Carlos Palomino, Davey Moore, Jorge Castro, Iran Barkley and Sugar Ray Leonard. He also got a pretty close UD loss to Wilfred Benitez, where it was winnable for both, but Benitez out did Duran.

[Malvado]

Esteban DeJesus is in the HOF, so is Ken Buchanan who you left out. A long with a list of Top 5-10 ranked Lightweights.

Cuevas and Palomino as you mentioned, two top WW’s.

He beat Davey Moore in his at Jr Middlweight, after starting his career as a Bantamweight, as a big underdog to win that belt.

And then of course he beat an undefeated Sugar Ray Leonard.

So to ask “who did he beat” is just a very wild thing to ask.

I kind of forget he debuted at Bantamweight. But then again, according to his record he debuted at 16 years old. Pacquiao debuted at the same age in Light Flyweight.

[hugh grant]

To be fair, unlike Pacquiao, Duran was at notable size disadvantage against Hearns and Hagler, yet gave a pretty great fight against Hagler and beat Barkley when Roberto was quite in the downslide. It be like Pacquiao going 15 rounds with a prime Golovkin and winning about 6-7 rounds, his opponent just edging it. Pacquiao was at a size disadvantage at 147-154, but don't think he was fighting champions of that caliber in Bradley, Ugas, and Thurman. He dominantly kicked Margarito's cheating ass but took punishment for it. Cotto and De La Hoya were also out of their prime.

Not saying his legacy is that much greater than Pacquiao who went from 108 to 154 actually besting more legends and prime former world champions, but Duran also has wins over championship level fighters like Saoul Mamby, Guts Ishimatsu, Vilomar Fernandez, Esteban De Jesus X2, Ken Buchanan, Pipino Cuevas, Carlos Palomino, Davey Moore, Jorge Castro, Iran Barkley and Sugar Ray Leonard. He also got a pretty close UD loss to Wilfred Benitez, where it was winnable for both, but Benitez out did Duran.

But ssm, dlh, said pac was toughest.. They might ve been past prime when they lost to pac, but still have their minds intact to assess..S SM was even more past prime when he lost to Nel o too but didn't say Nel o was toughest?I
Clottey lost split decision to cotton but lost 12 rounds to pac? I don't think Duran was ever as dominant as pac was