Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Oleksandr Usyk, future opponents and his status as an all-time great heavyweight

[DeeMoney]

Lennox is vastly overrated on the ATG HW scale, he, just like the Klit bros, won due to sheer size.

But alas, here are the facts, Lennox Lewis got KO by 2 journeymen in his prime. Lewis avgended the losses but it still hurts his ranking overall.

Usyk, a former Cruiserweight, is slaying behemoths who usually outweigh him by 40-50 lbs and is still undefeated.

Yeah, but winning by size is still winning. Would it be fair to downplay a fighters wins because he won due to speed? Or another who had a better chin? Or how bout the fighter who was too smart for his opponent?

Why is size the one factor that we justify in denouncing a heavyweight? This is sports, and body type is a factor in your overall athletic makeup- if size plays a part in you winning, good for you.

[ShoulderRoll]

Before Usyk went to Heavyweight people were saying he wouldn't be able to beat the bigger Heavyweights. Now that he's conquered the bigger guys people are saying they're uncoordinated and coming up with all these excuses.
News flash btw..Usyk has also beat guys smaller than him and guys that are around the same size as well.

I'd love to see that Opetaia fight though. That one is interesting.
I also wouldn't mind seeing Usyk whoop on Benavidez. Breadman is super high on Benavidez for some reason. Tell him to move up and let's see what he has.

Yeah. Before Usyk moved up and whipped all these guys the talk was about how the modern heavyweights had evolved to be so big and strong that it wasn’t fair. There were calls to make a separate super heavyweight division (and bridgerweight ) to level the playing field.

Now all of a sudden it turns out that being so large was a disadvantage all along. Because they are uncoordinated and run out of stamina.

Anyway, Usyk unified cruiserweight too. So it’s not like he only looks good against huge, stiff idiots. People just need to give the white boy his full credit.

[BirdSong]

Yeah, but winning by size is still winning. Would it be fair to downplay a fighters wins because he won due to speed? Or another who had a better chin? Or how bout the fighter who was too smart for his opponent?

Why is size the one factor that we justify in denouncing a heavyweight? This is sports, and body type is a factor in your overall athletic makeup- if size plays a part in you winning, good for you.

yeah size is one thing but didnt someone say SPEED KILLS

[SteelFist01]

**** racist fans! Bunch of ***** made *******. And **** Turki too!

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

Yeah. Before Usyk moved up and whipped all these guys the talk was about how the modern heavyweights had evolved to be so big and strong that it wasn’t fair. There were calls to make a separate super heavyweight division (and bridgerweight ) to level the playing field.

Now all of a sudden it turns out that being so large was a disadvantage all along. Because they are uncoordinated and run out of stamina.

Anyway, Usyk unified cruiserweight too. So it’s not like he only looks good against huge, stiff idiots. People just need to give the white boy his full credit.

There are plenty of huge athletes with good mobility and stamina , just look at the NBA and NFL. Stamina and movement are things that can be worked on and improved. I guess that people tend to overlook that.

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

Damn!
I never realized that I was a black Panamanian with Nicaraguan roots whose favorite fighters should've been Ingemar and Max.

Same here. It's never mattered to me what nationality or skin color a fighter has . What they do in the ring is what I care about , unless they're a real shltbag outside of the ring. If they're a crap human being then I'm probably going to root against them.

[CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart]

That is interesting. Some time ago I was banned permanently and I have no idea why. I had an account since 2008 and suddenly, there was no warning, no explanation just the account stopped working - permanent ban. I do not remember posting anything controversial or insulting and I was not involved in any vicious fights on the forum that I witness all the time, so after that even I was kind of walking on egg shells not really knowing what is going on. Does anyone know what is going on?

I was shocked to see that you were banned. I had not seen you engage in any sort of stuff that would get someone banned. You're one of the most level headed and nice people on this site. Even when you disagree with someone you are respectful and adult about it. It's only fair that people should be informed of exactly why they are being banned and that they be given an opportunity to challenge the ban.

[brankobugarski]

I was shocked to see that you were banned. I had not seen you engage in any sort of stuff that would get someone banned. You're one of the most level headed and nice people on this site. Even when you disagree with someone you are respectful and adult about it. It's only fair that people should be informed of exactly why they are being banned and that they be given an opportunity to challenge the ban.

Thank you for your nice words. What I found even more confusing was that people that were involved in brutal wars calling each other everything under the sun were still on the forum continuing to insult each other and I was banned with no warning, explanation or the right of appeal.

[hugh grant]

I think usyk beats kabayel, Parker and ajagba. Then that's having beaten the top ten heavyweights.