Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Oleksandr Usyk, future opponents and his status as an all-time great heavyweight

[BirdSong]

Also, it shouldn't be controversial to say that some of those fans appreciate Usyk more because he's a white dude and they're white dudes. That is as normal as it gets in boxing and society sadly, where people tend to stick with their own racial group.

that will never change, for example u would not expect a bunch of asians or japanese to ovelyr support say african americans or mexicans or whatever im just using that as an example it could apply to any group its just common sense really

[DeeMoney]

“Usyk being labeled a two-time lineal champion is a farce. He got stripped and he beat a fighter that he already stopped a couple of years ago to regain his crown. That’s the not the same as losing it and winning it back. Or being stripped like, say, Ali and coming back to face a new great champion in Frazier. So the two time lineal champion label is false advertising.”

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Agree wholeheartedly, the two time lineal thing is a farce. But I would argue its better to have never actually lost the title in a fight (like Usyk) than to have lost it in the ring and then win it back later.

[Lomadeaux]

Usyk is an all-time great. There's zero questioning that. It's not just how he fights, it's how he acts in and out of the ring.

[brankobugarski]

u dang might have solved the mystery maybe but i didnt want to say that incase i get another ban this time forever maybe this site is now nuts officially

That is interesting. Some time ago I was banned permanently and I have no idea why. I had an account since 2008 and suddenly, there was no warning, no explanation just the account stopped working - permanent ban. I do not remember posting anything controversial or insulting and I was not involved in any vicious fights on the forum that I witness all the time, so after that even I was kind of walking on egg shells not really knowing what is going on. Does anyone know what is going on?

[BirdSong]

That is interesting. Some time ago I was banned permanently and I have no idea why. I had an account since 2008 and suddenly, there was no warning, no explanation just the account stopped working - permanent ban. I do not remember posting anything controversial or insulting and I was not involved in any vicious fights on the forum that I witness all the time, so after that even I was kind of walking on egg shells not really knowing what is going on. Does anyone know what is going on?

i do u have to be very careful of what u post the days of having heated or funny convos or replies or even sarcasm can trigger the lunatics monitoring it now u literally cant even insult someone in a minor way for fear of the ban hammer it seems totally random as well some get it some dont idk so many old accounts gone bring back bigpoppapump i say boxing is not for snowflakes and neither should its discussions

[lilacp]

that will never change, for example u would not expect a bunch of asians or japanese to ovelyr support say african americans or mexicans or whatever im just using that as an example it could apply to any group its just common sense really

Well, it depends. I'm Puerto Rican and was rooting for Sheeraz to beat Berlanga lol.

[BirdSong]

Well, it depends. I'm Puerto Rican and was rooting for Sheeraz to beat Berlanga lol.

is berlanga not more of a new yorker dude?

[roademier]

Also, it shouldn't be controversial to say that some of those fans appreciate Usyk more because he's a white dude and they're white dudes. That is as normal as it gets in boxing and society sadly, where people tend to stick with their own racial group.

Damn!
I never realized that I was a black Panamanian with Nicaraguan roots whose favorite fighters should've been Ingemar and Max.

[HI-TECH Boxing]

Before Usyk went to Heavyweight people were saying he wouldn't be able to beat the bigger Heavyweights. Now that he's conquered the bigger guys people are saying they're uncoordinated and coming up with all these excuses.
News flash btw..Usyk has also beat guys smaller than him and guys that are around the same size as well.

I'd love to see that Opetaia fight though. That one is interesting.
I also wouldn't mind seeing Usyk whoop on Benavidez. Breadman is super high on Benavidez for some reason. Tell him to move up and let's see what he has.

[HandsofIron]

Lennox is vastly overrated on the ATG HW scale, he, just like the Klit bros, won due to sheer size.

But alas, here are the facts, Lennox Lewis got KO by 2 journeymen in his prime. Lewis avgended the losses but it still hurts his ranking overall.

Usyk, a former Cruiserweight, is slaying behemoths who usually outweigh him by 40-50 lbs and is still undefeated.