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  • dans
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    This American say maybe Froch won but...

    Froch can have this one. He fought like a professional and applied enough pressure to win enough rounds to get a split decision in his home town.

    That being said, Andre Dirrell looked a bit inexperienced. I'd bet anything that in a rematch, Dirrell would dominate Froch. Too quick, too precise, and too smart. You can say Froch won, okay maybe he did. But don't act like Froch put on a clinic or anything. For the majority of the fight, he looked flustered and frustrated. As was clearly seen when he threw Dirrell to the ground, Froch was baffled by Dirrell's speed, and couldn't connect like he wanted. Credit to Froch for his determination, but to reference another post in this thread, "Sorry Carl, he's just the better fighter".

    And for those that say Dirrell just ran the whole night, how does that explain the fact that not only did Dirrell land the more powerful, meaningful shots, but he landed more and at a much higher percentage. I remember exchanges where Froch would whiff or graze Dirrell 5-6 times, and the crowd would go nuts. Dirrell would usually counter and land a solid hook or two and win the exchange.

    So again, do I think Dirrell won? Maybe, but he didn't win convincingly, and to beat a defending champ in his backyard, you need to. But there's one thing that I don't have doubts about. Dirrell is the better athlete and the better fighter. With more seasoning he would've beaten Froch easily, and if they fight again I expect an easy night for Dirrell.
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    dirrel is inexpierienced
    a green prospect who had never been past 10 rounds or fought at world level executed the perfect game-plan and the only way he could win against froch
    he got robbed imo,i felt very bad for him
    the ref was poor also

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    • CiganoBoxer
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      I think Dirrel showed he can fight well if he applys himself..IMO he wouldnt have to do that much more to beat froch if they fought again and i think he exsposed froch as being very limited !

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        #4
        Originally posted by dans01234
        Froch can have this one. He fought like a professional and applied enough pressure to win enough rounds to get a split decision in his home town.

        That being said, Andre Dirrell looked a bit inexperienced. I'd bet anything that in a rematch, Dirrell would dominate Froch. Too quick, too precise, and too smart. You can say Froch won, okay maybe he did. But don't act like Froch put on a clinic or anything. For the majority of the fight, he looked flustered and frustrated. As was clearly seen when he threw Dirrell to the ground, Froch was baffled by Dirrell's speed, and couldn't connect like he wanted. Credit to Froch for his determination, but to reference another post in this thread, "Sorry Carl, he's just the better fighter".

        And for those that say Dirrell just ran the whole night, how does that explain the fact that not only did Dirrell land the more powerful, meaningful shots, but he landed more and at a much higher percentage. I remember exchanges where Froch would whiff or graze Dirrell 5-6 times, and the crowd would go nuts. Dirrell would usually counter and land a solid hook or two and win the exchange.

        So again, do I think Dirrell won? Maybe, but he didn't win convincingly, and to beat a defending champ in his backyard, you need to. But there's one thing that I don't have doubts about. Dirrell is the better athlete and the better fighter. With more seasoning he would've beaten Froch easily, and if they fight again I expect an easy night for Dirrell.
        By the 4th or 5th round, Dirrell had a bloody nose and a bloody lip and later in the fight Dirrell had a abrasion over his eye. Carl hit's pretty hard which is why Dirrell ran so much. Dirrell is just a coward. He has speed and has fast feet but his heart is a little soft. He does not have the heart of a champion. Some where in the corner of Dirrell like after the third or fourth round, they told Dirrell you got caught and Dirrell was like I DID? lol sitting there with a bloody nose and a fat lip and he don't know he got pegged so the corner is like ok, maybe you didnt get caught. I guess the nose and lip were not evidence enough lol so they just all go into denial.

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        • dans
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          #5
          Originally posted by BoxingChaos
          By the 4th or 5th round, Dirrell had a bloody nose and a bloody lip and later in the fight Dirrell had a abrasion over his eye. Carl hit's pretty hard which is why Dirrell ran so much. Dirrell is just a coward. He has speed and has fast feet but his heart is a little soft. He does not have the heart of a champion. Some where in the corner of Dirrell like after the third or fourth round, they told Dirrell you got caught and Dirrell was like I DID? lol sitting there with a bloody nose and a fat lip and he don't know he got pegged so the corner is like ok, maybe you didnt get caught. I guess the nose and lip were not evidence enough lol so they just all go into denial.
          What about when Dirrell was opening up and walluping Froch with full force shots that Carl couldn't evade? What about the fact that the only one who was in danger of being stopped was Froch?

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            #6
            Lets get back to the original post. I'm glad you see it all clear. Froch fought fairly and didn't commit any serious fouls. Somebody was talking about rabbitpunching earlier, well thats a risk u gotta take when u clinch all the time!

            Froch landed some pretty good shots and he appeared less hurt than Dirrell. None of them were seriously hurt. It was not a very good fight, but Dirrell def didn't deserve to win since he was such a chicken.

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              #7
              Originally posted by dans01234
              What about when Dirrell was opening up and walluping Froch with full force shots that Carl couldn't evade? What about the fact that the only one who was in danger of being stopped was Froch?
              What about when froch had dirrell on ***** street at round 6 and 8 then dirrell had to hold like a *****?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Benncollinsaad
                Lets get back to the original post. I'm glad you see it all clear. Froch fought fairly and didn't commit any serious fouls. Somebody was talking about rabbitpunching earlier, well thats a risk u gotta take when u clinch all the time!

                Froch landed some pretty good shots and he appeared less hurt than Dirrell. None of them were seriously hurt. It was not a very good fight, but Dirrell def didn't deserve to win since he was such a chicken.
                It was a chippy fight, I thought either both should be penalized or neither. Dirrell losing a point was obsurd.

                I would debate that Dirrell was more hurt. Froch seemed more tired and was clealy wobbled and almost in danger of being knocked out.

                Still I agree Dirrell didn't do enough to win. Had Dirrell not gotten the point deducted and went out and actually clearly won the 12th round, he would've won in Nottingham or in Froch's driveway.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by dans01234
                  It was a chippy fight, I thought either both should be penalized or neither. Dirrell losing a point was obsurd.

                  I would debate that Dirrell was more hurt. Froch seemed more tired and was clealy wobbled and almost in danger of being knocked out.

                  Still I agree Dirrell didn't do enough to win. Had Dirrell not gotten the point deducted and went out and actually clearly won the 12th round, he would've won in Nottingham or in Froch's driveway.
                  You can't win rounds by starting an attack and then just stopping halfway thru and clinching away!

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                  • dans
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by zojo
                    What about when froch had dirrell on ***** street at round 6 and 8 then dirrell had to hold like a *****?

                    hahaha what? When was that? You're making stuff up. The only one that was on ***** street in this fight was Froch.

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