Originally posted by Donnie Herrera
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Muhammad Ali vs Oleksandr Usyk: Can Usyk Surpass Ali’s Legacy?
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
Well usyk won't have as many fights as Ali at heavyweight. But Ali best wins will need to be lined up with usyks.
So foreman, frasier, liston, Cleveland williams, bugner, against fury, josh, ddd, chisora, parker, ajit.
Usyk would get smashed trying to get through Ali’s resume undefeated!!!…Not even gonna mention triple d cups!!!…
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Originally posted by kafkod View Post
Yes, I know why Ali was suspended from boxing.
Ali refused to take part in his country's invasion of another country.
Usyk is helping to fund the defence of his own country against an invasion from another country.
See the difference?
Ali on the other hand was a philanthropist:
renowned philanthropist who donated generously to various causes throughout his life. He notably donated to the UNCF, Kosair Children's Hospital, and the Sahel region of West Africa during a drought. He also supported organizations like The Cradle, Make A Wish Foundation,and Best Buddies. Ali's charitable efforts extended to various humanitarian causes, including disaster relief and supporting disadvantaged people across the globe.
Here's a more detailed look at his donations:- UNCF:
In 1967, Ali donated $10,000 to the UNCF (United Negro College Fund), which is equivalent to about $90,000 in 2024. - Kosair Children's Hospital:
He donated proceeds from a fight to Kosair Children's Hospital shortly after winning the Olympic gold medal. - African Drought Relief:
He donated 50 cents from each ticket sold for his closed-circuit television title match against Chuck Wepner to aid the drought-stricken Sahel region of West Africa. - Organizations:
Ali supported numerous organizations including The Cradle, Make A Wish Foundation, Best Buddies, Herbert E. Birch Services, and the Muhammad Ali Parkinson Research Center. - Other Humanitarian Efforts:
He also helped feed millions afflicted by hunger, supported disaster relief, and delivered supplies to hospitals and orphanages in Africa and Asia.
Ali has done a lot more charitable things than that where people are encouraged to thrive and stay alive not fund the death of innocent men…women and children in a mindless war like Usyk!!!…
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Last edited by Donnie Herrera; 07-26-2025, 06:17 AM.
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Originally posted by garfios View Post
Not inside nor outside the ring. He beat a drunk gipsy and a scare british, and he surpassed Ali? GTFOH
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Originally posted by Donnie Herrera View Post
The world does…
Ali beat Frazier 2 out of the three times they fought…you don’t know boxing that’s why you should shut up before speaking…if you can read…do just a little research…enough to not hurt your brain…
“Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier fought each other three times in their professional boxing careers. Their first fight, known as the "Fight of the Century," took place in 1971, where Frazier won by decision. They then fought two more times, with Ali winning the second bout in 1974 and the third, the "Thrilla in Manila," in 1975“
Ali also fought 15 rounds back in those days without the technological advances in sports science today that Usyk gets to take advantage of with less rounds…never could he compare to Ali!!!…
“Joe Frazier won the first fight against Muhammad Ali, which was known as the "Fight of the Century". The fight took place on March 8, 1971, and Frazier won by unanimous decision after 15 rounds”
Frazier won the first fight by decision…Ali schooled him in the 2nd fight and busted his face until they had to stop it…in their third and final fight aka “The Thrilla In Manila” showing he can come back from adversity like a true champ!!!…Not claiming goat status off 8 fights against the Derek chisoras and dubious’ of the world…
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Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
Frazier was a glorified light heavyweight with one punch in his arsenal. He was the 70s version of Beyonce Wilder lets be honest. And he still whooped prime Ali. is Frazier even 6ft? Usyk would annhilate any version of Ali
"In their first fight, known as the "Fight of the Century", Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier were incredibly competitive, landing a combined total of 468 punches. Ali landed 248 punches while Frazier landed 220, according to a sports website. Frazier won by unanimous decision after 15 rounds"
I'd love to see Wilder, Fury, AJ go 15 rds
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Still waiting on the list of HOFers Usyk will have on his resume
Sry Usyk, these crazed fans are making me call attention to your resume
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Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
Frazier was a glorified light heavyweight with one punch in his arsenal. He was the 70s version of Beyonce Wilder let’s be honest. And he still whooped prime Ali. is Frazier even 6ft? Usyk would annhilate any version of Ali
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Originally posted by Haka View Post
Lewis is considered among the best head to head HWs and he was a Brit ?
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