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  • #41
    Originally posted by Left Hook Louie View Post

    The only reason the Saudi royal family set up Riyadh Season (and LIV golf, for that matter) is for the PR value of owning sporting spectacles that bring attention to the regime in a 'positive' light. There is no intrinsic interest in the betterment of pro boxing from the Saudis. They see a market demographics (boxing fans and golf fans) and use those as captive audiences to sportswash the image of the country.
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    And how exactly is that a problem? Riyadh season rules

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    • #42
      If I was Tim Tszyu I would move up to 160. It’s less talented there.

      Staying at 154 is futile. It’s loaded with talent. Besides; what does he have to lose fighting at Middleweight?

      After all, he is a gatekeeper status now.
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      • #43
        Turki is wrong on this one. How in the Hell does he expect him to fight and lose to Vergil Ortiz when he can’t even get past Sebastian Fundora; Who is even less talented than Ortiz?

        Fundora had a knockout loss on his record before meeting Tim Tszyu and yet Sebastian still managed to defeat him not only once but twice.

        I never understood the hoopla and buzz surrounding Tszyu? He was never that good to begin with before he got exposed. He was only average at best.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
          If I was Tim Tszyu I would move up to 160. It’s less talented there.

          Staying at 154 is futile. It’s loaded with talent. Besides; what does he have to lose fighting at Middleweight?

          After all, he is a gatekeeper status now.
          We're seeing him morph into one with every loss.
          He should have no trouble landing the Thurman fight now.


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          • #45
            Fundora has improved a lot and Murtazaliev is a good fighter. No shame in losing to them, Tim can come again.

            Just retool and rebuild.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
              Yeah they both quit but you saying that quitting on the stool is worse is subjective. Dubois looked like he could have gotten up and chose not to. But the bigger difference was Tyszu appeared to be fighting hard and doing the best he could up until that point and was taking real punishment every round . Dubois maybe had 20 seconds of success and then packed it in after the first real solid shots landed.
              That is what makes it worse Tsyzu was getting beat up but still landed some decent shots then had one of his stronger round and then decided to quit on his stool. Way worse. Dubois was hurt look how he was gasping for breath when he was on the floor. Still huge double standards to the reactions and comments i have seen for Tsyzu and Dubois. Tsyzu the quitter has been made out like some brave guy

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post

                That is what makes it worse Tsyzu was getting beat up but still landed some decent shots then had one of his stronger round and then decided to quit on his stool. Way worse. Dubois was hurt look how he was gasping for breath when he was on the floor. Still huge double standards to the reactions and comments i have seen for Tsyzu and Dubois. Tsyzu the quitter has been made out like some brave guy
                Honest question, do you consider Cotto a quitter because he took the knee to Margarito after giving it all he had? I think Tyszu gave it all he had and packed it in, I think Dubois got discouraged without taking any significant punishment yet and said fook this, I’m out.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post

                  That is what makes it worse Tsyzu was getting beat up but still landed some decent shots then had one of his stronger round and then decided to quit on his stool. Way worse. Dubois was hurt look how he was gasping for breath when he was on the floor. Still huge double standards to the reactions and comments i have seen for Tsyzu and Dubois. Tsyzu the quitter has been made out like some brave guy
                  Ya Damn right! Dubois just got KTFO by Usyk. Whereas, Tszyu simply quit by stop believing himself and lost to fear.

                  He hit Fundora with some of the hardest punches he has ever landed in his career. Yet he couldn’t so much as dissuade or discourage Sebastian’s advance.

                  The man constantly kept coming after him throwing and landing punches. When Tim saw that his punches no longer had a deterrent effect on Fundora; That’s when he decided to quit.

                  He was on the verge of getting knocked out.
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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                    Honest question, do you consider Cotto a quitter because he took the knee to Margarito after giving it all he had? I think Tyszu gave it all he had and packed it in, I think Dubois got discouraged without taking any significant punishment yet and said fook this, I’m out.
                    Dubois was literally knocked down with a clean flush punch he was hurt look at his breathing. Dubois got kod whereas Tsyzu = QUITTER.
                    Last edited by Boxing 112; Yesterday, 05:01 PM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                      Fundora has improved a lot and Murtazaliev is a good fighter. No shame in losing to them, Tim can come again.

                      Just retool and rebuild.
                      I agree; Just not at 154 anymore. That ship has sailed. The division is jammed packed with names like: Jaron Ennis, Vergil Ortiz and also with the influx of the Eastern Euto title contenders too.

                      Tszyu doesn’t stand much of a chance there. Tim’s biggest challenge is to convince himself that he is not this huge slugger or power puncher that he believes he is .He is more of a boxer/puncher.

                      He needs to get back to the basics and fundamentals of becoming a boxer first and a slugger last again. Every bout doesn’t have to be a firefight. Patience is the key.
                      Last edited by champion4ever; Yesterday, 07:10 PM.

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