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  • #51
    Originally posted by CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart View Post
    I'm here to eat my CROW , and plenty of it. I knew from the first two minutes of round one that we were doomed. Daniel was giving too much respect and trying to box with Usyk. He had to do to him what he did to Joshua and impose his size and strength on him. I was yelling instructions thru the television but Daniel wasn't listening to me at all.
    I have to give Usyk his props , he really is that all time great that people have been saying he is. I didn't believe it until last night , now I do. Usyk really is " that guy". He didn't just outbox Dubois , he beat him up. It's hard to believe that the guy is 38. I don't know what is next for him , I was thinking that he would retire after the fight but he sure doesn't need to , he's not in danger of losing to father time in the foreseeable future.
    You really did go all in on your Doobie, didn't ya?
    So I was interested to see what you would say this morning after, the , umm, formalities were concluded yesterday at Wembley.
    Stand-up post you got here and sorry for your guy's loss, but a Usyk loss really wasn't meant to be.
    This fight was a good example of clearly defined levels. No shame there - it is what it is.
    Maybe with Usyk out of the picture sooner rather than later, DuBois can rise again and find more success at the top of the heavyweight food chain?
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    • #52
      Originally posted by CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart View Post
      I'm here to eat my CROW , and plenty of it. I knew from the first two minutes of round one that we were doomed. Daniel was giving too much respect and trying to box with Usyk. He had to do to him what he did to Joshua and impose his size and strength on him. I was yelling instructions thru the television but Daniel wasn't listening to me at all.
      I have to give Usyk his props , he really is that all time great that people have been saying he is. I didn't believe it until last night , now I do. Usyk really is " that guy". He didn't just outbox Dubois , he beat him up. It's hard to believe that the guy is 38. I don't know what is next for him , I was thinking that he would retire after the fight but he sure doesn't need to , he's not in danger of losing to father time in the foreseeable future.
      It takes a real man to admit when he is wrong and eat his serve or crow. I have eaten crow many times and still don't like the taste.
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      • #53
        Originally posted by Bob View Post

        Parker only survived against Zhang whilst Kabayel destroyed him & Parker was destroyed by Joyce. Whats he done really?I'd rather Kabayel got his shot but I'm not hoping against Usyk any more.
        They both got dropped by Zhang. One outboxed Zhang clearly, the other got the KO. Also, did you pick Parker to beat Wilder?

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        • #54
          Originally posted by THC View Post
          I'm presuming you weren't impressed with that performance (or his career in general). May I ask which recent fighter would meet your criteria as a generational talent? Or which heavyweights from 1960 - 1995 that you would rank higher than Usyk?
          I’ll make it easy for “generational.” A prime klitscho ko’s Usyk. I’ll make it even more easy for the heavyweight landscape of this era, how poor it is. Does fury, Joshua, wilder, Zhang Parker, who are arguably the best alongside Usyk the top dogs top those along the lines of Ali, Frazier, Norton, Holmes or heck even shavers or a prime Holyfield? Foreman beats them all as well. The fact that all these casuals keep saying too that “no one’s came close to beating Usyk” is even more comical too. Two close decisions with fury, and that’s not even talking about the fights they haven’t seen or remember. Usyk was losing to chazz Witherspoon before Witherspoon quit. And Usyk debatably beat del boy.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by letsgochump View Post
            Olympic gold.
            Undisputed at Cruiserweight and winner of the Muhammad Ali trophy of the super series tournament.
            Undisputed at heavyweight x 2 having beat 2 of the great 3 once spoken of as the greats of this era.
            How many world title fights now in total? I don't have energy to check.
            World class movement and engine, excellent demand of the boxing basics and a relentless will to win every single fight.

            Not that long ago people reacted with x and D when Usyk corrected the interviewer that his goal is not being simply HW champion, but an undisputed one. This was after the Witherspoon fight when most people were arguing who beats of on the AJ-Tipsy King-Wilder axel. Those people used names like "Usuck, Ustiff" etc and called him midget. Well well well, here we are half a decade later and Usyk is the one who is the best of them all. It seemed like a tall order with the weight and size disadvantage and lack of KO power but Usyk is the proof that heart is the most important for a champion.

            Hats off to Usyk. A wonderful solid performance again beating the opponent in each area of boxing and finally introducing him to Ivan. Ivan really seemed to like Dubois.

            A funny guy, respectful, humble, hardworking and generous. Beats me how some people don't like him. I guess folks want to see themselves in their idols and therefore toxic low iq bums always support guys like Twerking Deontay and The Tipsy King and these kinda folks hate someone like Usyk who makes them look as bad as they really are.

            Anyway, Usyk is the king, like it or not. Slava Ukraini!
            *stands up, gives letsgochump well earned slow clap*

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            • #56
              Thatmanox while I'm not going to disagree with your assessment of the HW landscape decades ago with respect to depth, especially the American scene, I'm still confident that Usyk will be regarded by many fans as an elite athlete of the sport. I also don't feel that all boxers you cited would have had an easy time with the Ukrainian. He's the type of figher whose mental strength and ring smarts would have carried him to a respectable performance in a war akin to Ali-Farazier III.
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              • #57
                Originally posted by Thatmanox View Post

                I’ll make it easy for “generational.” A prime klitscho ko’s Usyk. I’ll make it even more easy for the heavyweight landscape of this era, how poor it is. Does fury, Joshua, wilder, Zhang Parker, who are arguably the best alongside Usyk the top dogs top those along the lines of Ali, Frazier, Norton, Holmes or heck even shavers or a prime Holyfield? Foreman beats them all as well. The fact that all these casuals keep saying too that “no one’s came close to beating Usyk” is even more comical too. Two close decisions with fury, and that’s not even talking about the fights they haven’t seen or remember. Usyk was losing to chazz Witherspoon before Witherspoon quit. And Usyk debatably beat del boy.
                down on round vs Dubois, losing to Witherspoon, debatably beat del boy LMAO worst bait ever

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                • #58
                  Hats off to Usyk! Make them all sit down and clap... Best of this decade by far!

                  I would love to see him beat Parker and Kabayel too to further enhance his legacy and to be able to say he fully cleaned out the division. We know he already did, but in 20yrs, then no one can say anything about anyone else fighting around the same time as Usyk and it should help propel him up the ranks!

                  Also, having a few defenses of the "Undisputed" title should help his cause in the long-term.
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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by THC View Post
                    Thatmanox while I'm not going to disagree with your assessment of the HW landscape decades ago with respect to depth, especially the American scene, I'm still confident that Usyk will be regarded by many fans as an elite athlete of the sport. I also don't feel that all boxers you cited would have had an easy time with the Ukrainian. He's the type of figher whose mental strength and ring smarts would have carried him to a respectable performance in a war akin to Ali-Farazier III.
                    I’ve never claimed that he wasn’t an elite athlete of the sport. I agree, he’s exceptional, especially in today’s age where nearly the majority of heavyweights gas at 5 rounds. The problem I have is that you have people on this site and X whom are claiming that he’s the best of all time, yet have hardly watched any true fights in their lifetime.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by olivetree66 View Post

                      down on round vs Dubois, losing to Witherspoon, debatably beat del boy LMAO worst bait ever
                      All you had to say was “I’ve never watched a majority of these fights, but saw highlights.” We understand brother, we understand.

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