Sorry Ali fans, Usyk has replaced him as “The Greatest” Heavyweight.

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  • TheProudLunatic
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    #151
    Originally posted by Bennyleonard99

    Floyd and Haymon had Vegas under total control. What do you expect Floyd to confess that he fixed all his fights with the guaranteed Showtime and HBO money to hire all his opponents as subcontracted business employees? And the only ones who refused to be bought off were ducked and or slandered with cheating accusations?

    You think Floyd and Haymon had too much integrity, honor and respect for the sport and fans to rig every one of his fights in one way or another, to sustain their leverage and value with that phony 0?

    You can wear your dunce hat proudly.
    You do know what proof is, dont you Shemp

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    • Bennyleonard99
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      #152
      Originally posted by TheProudLunatic

      You do know what proof is, dont you Shemp
      Floyd has too much honor and integrity to fix fights and cheat fans and opponents. He is driven by honor and integrity not money even if he openly worships money. You phool.

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        #153
        Originally posted by Bennyleonard99

        Floyd ............
        Dang

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          #154
          Originally posted by Jacobson
          We are all nostalgic, but we have to be objective too.

          Comparing Usyk to Ali boxing-wise
          -Athletes far bigger/stronger in modern era, boxing more globalized
          -Olympic gold, World Championship gold, World Cup silver vs just Olympic gold
          -GOAT Cruiserweight career
          -Moved up to HW and destroyed Joshua 2x, Fury 2x, Dubois 2x as a MUCH smaller man
          -Won most of his fights on the road in enemy territory vs mostly U.S. for Ali
          -Undefeated at 38 vs Ali’s multiple losses (Frazier, Norton, Holmes, etc) and gifts (Young, Spinks, etc)

          Comparing Usyk to Ali outside the ring
          -Usyk is always respectful, never trash-talks even when disrespected. Ali often taunted opponents, made inflammatory racial remarks, deeply hurt good people like Frazier and hurt their children too.
          -Usyk is a true family man who never committed adultery or disrespected women, especially his wife. Ali was a serial adulterer, hurt many women.
          -Ali was a hero to his people, but so is Usyk, who is a hero to not only the Ukrainian army and people, but to all of Western Europe and the entire Free World against Russian tyranny.
          -Ali was constantly boastful and called himself great. Usyk is never boastful, never calls himself great, instead gives ALL glory to Jesus Christ.

          As a boxer, as a man, Usyk is as close to perfection as it gets. He is a better ambassador and role model for boxing than Ali could ever be. He’s the kind of guy that young athletes should model themselves afterwards. He’s the epitome of conquering evil with good, and going high when others go low.

          He is “The Greatest” boxer, but he would never say that of himself.

          The legend of Oleksandr Usyk is just beginning.
          His best win is against a guy who lost to an mma fighter with zero pro fights. NO.

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            #155
            Usyk is GREAT !!!!!
            But honestly, has he really done enough to be in the same company with Johnson, Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis and Wladimir Klitschko????

            Fury and Joshua getting nicked by close decisions in their last couple of fights, plus Dubois.

            Get ahold of yourselves, I'm thinking.

            Beat Parker, Kabayel and Itauma and he'll have a strong case.
            Failing that? Just a superb fighter who stayed at a springboard division too long and entered the flagship division at the tail end of an era to pick up their belts after 2 of the 3 c. 2015 - 2020 era champions showed that their prime years were demonstrably just behind them.

            Likely, it was nothing that Parker, Kabayel and Itauma couldn't have also done just as neatly, if we're being honest.

            Great; but hardly 'the greatest".

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              #156
              Originally posted by Willow The Wisp
              Usyk is GREAT !!!!!
              But honestly, has he really done enough to be in the same company with Johnson, Dempsey, Louis, Marciano, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis and Wladimir Klitschko????

              Fury and Joshua getting nicked by close decisions in their last couple of fights, plus Dubois.

              Get ahold of yourselves, I'm thinking.

              Beat Parker, Kabayel and Itauma and he'll have a strong case.
              Failing that? Just a superb fighter who stayed at a springboard division too long and entered the flagship division at the tail end of an era to pick up their belts after 2 of the 3 c. 2015 - 2020 era champions showed that their prime years were demonstrably just behind them.

              Likely, it was nothing that Parker, Kabayel and Itauma couldn't have also done just as neatly, if we're being honest.

              Great; but hardly 'the greatest".


              make a wish because Usyk be on that one year a fight program. the normalization of this fight frequency regresses the sport of boxing

              Usyk might not even be the best from his own country let alone replacing the heavyweight goat and top 7 all time Muhammad

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