It just feels like a Dubois upset is incoming.

[BirdSong]

Let's keep it clean. But also don't look to the ref for help every time someone digs to the body

how many times has usyk done this?

[TintaBoricua]

He ducked Parker, Miller sucks, Joshua was washed, and Hrgovic sucks.

It's not like he walked through Parker, Kabayel, and Fury.

Rematches favor the more technical fighter and that's Usyk, who won every second of the first fight and stopped Usyk with a jab. And he'll stop him again.

I remember in mid 2014 thinking Maidana was going to catch Floyd with something in the rematch and he never did, but more than that I remember a co-worker of mine in the military telling me that rematches favor the counter puncher. And I hadn’t sat down to think about that, but sure enough, that’s the case more often than not.

Shout out to JP Ryan, wherever you are! Lol

[NihonJim]

how many times has usyk done this?

Too many to count, he's always crying to the ref

[TintaBoricua]

Just as a matter of accuracy. Fury was never actually dropped at all. Fury was well staggered in the the 9th during their first fight, caught by the ropes, and got a standing 8 count from referee Mark Nelson; but I don't recall him actually knocked down and he certainly recovered (he wasn't).
In fact, it was a slim 1 point fight on 2 of the 3 judges scorecards.
He was CONSTANTLY in more trouble than that in 2 of the 3 Deontay Wilder fights. Laid out.


I believe that like Ali and Frazier, those two hastened each others demise.
And, I don't see any suggestion, knowing an awful lot about fighter career trajectories, that Usyk ever saw the best of either Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua.

Absolutely true. When people think of Fury-Wilder, they think of Fury being robbed in the first, sweeping him in the second, and then the violent ending of the rubber match, but all in all, Deontay did ok damage in that first fight and really tested Fury’s chin on a few occasions in the third match. It’s easy to sweep a damage assessment under the rug when you come out on top.

It’s sort of like Cotto’s and Margarito’s punches in the Pacquiao fight being overlooked. And it’s a weird thing to say because Pacquiao didn’t lose more than 4 rounds between the two of them and yet I’m sure he was hit a lot more in those fights than he wanted…especially Margarito who outweighed him by a significant amount. His stubbornness of not pulling out and salvaging his left eye allowed him to take something out of Pacquiao in the long run, more than I think a lot of fans would be willing to admit.

[daggum]

I remember in mid 2014 thinking Maidana was going to catch Floyd with something in the rematch and he never did, but more than that I remember a co-worker of mine in the military telling me that rematches favor the counter puncher. And I hadn’t sat down to think about that, but sure enough, that’s the case more often than not.

Shout out to JP Ryan, wherever you are! Lol

floyd maidana the counter-clincher won