Comments Thread For: Chris Algieri?s School of Thought: Deontay Wilder can revive rivalry with Anthony Joshua

[PRINCEKOOL]

Watch how certain folk behave in society? There are vast demographics of people who live in the moment 'And they only seem to value events, and situations that have recently happened. This can be observed and is most apparent in the sports World'.

If Deontay Wilder goes on a run of fights 'Even where he is just blasting out domestic level American heavyweight fighters, many people will start once again to back Wilder to beat Joshua. I personally don't think there has ever been much of a rivalry between Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua 'For such a thing to develop, both fighters would have had to fought each other'.

It is common knowledge within the boxing community, that Deontay Wilder tactically chose to originally first fight Tyson Fury to avoid Anthony Joshua. Both Fury and Wilder fought each other to avoid Anthony Joshua 'anyone who knows anything about boxing knows this to be true'.

Note: The reality of both Tyson Fury's and Deontay Wilder's career right about now 'Is that Anthony Joshua is stylistically still one of their most difficult fights. Joshua is one of the very few Heavyweights who have World to Elite level punching power combined with skill for skill technical boxing ability. And he is a solid super heavyweight fighter. Neither Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder at any stage of their careers, have had that combination of attributes to a comparable level. Tyson Fury may be a technically awkward and at times great boxer, but his brute strength and power is under-par comparative that he is a Super Heavyweight fighter. And Deontay Wilder may have Elite level power, but his skill for skill technical boxing ability and brute strength are his worst attributes. If you was to rate individually Wilder's pure boxing ability and brute strength? I honestly believe he is around a European level standard at best'.

Deontay Wilder has been smashed up in all of his most recent fights 'Against lesser fighters than Anthony Joshua'. And Tyson Fury was pushed about and smashed up in round 9 against Oleksandr Uysk I. Then during their rematch Fury fought all hesitant against Oleksandr Uysk II, a former cruiserweight fighter who has never been renowned for his punching power or brute strength'.

I think a fight against Tyson Fury is much easier to prepare for and win for Anthony Joshua 'Deontay Wilder for all of his lack of top level boxing ability. Is still a more dangerous and difficult fight for Joshua. This is because of Wilder's power and his innate aggression, those are two fundamental attributes which you need to beat Anthony Joshua'.

Joshua has only really been out boxed by Oleksandr Uysk I & II 'And even during that fight, over the 24 rounds he was still competitive. All of his other loses have came about from being hurt beyond his in fight regenerative capabilities. That is why a fight against Deontay Wilder is always going to be dangerous for Anthony Joshua, it is a much more potentially difficult fight than vs Tyson Fury'.

To conclude: I have already stated before, out both Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder 'I think Wilder will be the most game to fight Anthony Joshua, if he is able to once again gather some momentum in his career'.

Tyson Fury his entire career has watched Anthony Joshua outperform him against all of their common opponents. 'Including Oleksandr Uysk I & II. I don't think Tyson Fury has ever been that enthusiastic in fighting Anthony Joshua, and currently right now in 2025 that ambition has decreased more than ever'.

Deontay Wilder's entire game relies on him believing that he is one of the most powerful sentient beings in the combat sports world 'That is it. In order for this to happen, he needs wins on his resume and violent knockouts' etc.

[Bennyleonard99]

There never was a rivalry because Wilder and his team are cowards and opted to fight PBC set ups instead of AJ.

[Willow The Wisp]

Brilliant article by a knowledgeable professional who not only understands the complexities of the sport, but knows the fighter being discussed. For reasons that are impossible to fathom, too many of the readers on this site, composed of individuals who understand only the shallow surface of the sport because they only watch fights on TV, express a negative, and absurd assesment of one of the century's finest and most accomplished heavyweights. If those who would disparage a true warrior like Wilder are even capable of acquiring knowledge; it should be stated that they have only to read your article, and to keep their ridiculous assertions to themselves.
WAR BOMB SQUAD!!

[TheIronMike]

These are the type of fights that Deontay Wilder need in order to help revive his career and also prep for a potential Anthony Joshua showdown.

Start a bum of the month club like Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali did. In order to help improve his skills and boxing conditioning.

Who were Ali's Bum of the Month?

[champion4ever]

I'm not convinced you read the quote I disagree with?

You are right. I am sorry about that mate! I failed to read that poster’s entire comment. Therefore, I extend my sincerest apologies to you.

[champion4ever]

Who were Ali's Bum of the Month?

All of the hand picked opponents he fought following his first loss to Joe Frazier from 1971-1973. Which ended with his loss to Ken Norton back in March 1973.

[daggum]

All of the hand picked opponents he fought following his first loss to Joe Frazier from 1971-1973. Which ended with his loss to Ken Norton back in March 1973.

He beat 4 top 5 opponents in those 2 years. He fought some mediocre opponents but he stayed busy fighting 10 times. Pretty funny how that's seen as fighting bums compared to this era...

[TheIronMike]

All of the hand picked opponents he fought following his first loss to Joe Frazier from 1971-1973. Which ended with his loss to Ken Norton back in March 1973.

I don't understand....those fights include Quarry 2, Patterson 2 and Bob Foster, the first 2 still being legit contenders...especially Patterson

[champion4ever]

I don't understand....those fights include Quarry 2, Patterson 2 and Bob Foster, the first 2 still being legit contenders...especially Patterson

At the time; All those fighters were either unknown or tomato cans who were considered past their primes .Let’s just take the first Ken Norton loss for example.

Ali admitted that the major reason why he lost that fight was because he didn’t train, prepare or focus for it. He said he underestimated Norton because he was an unknown.

If it were not so then he would have never taken that fight in the first place.

[champion4ever]

I don't understand....those fights include Quarry 2, Patterson 2 and Bob Foster, the first 2 still being legit contenders...especially Patterson

Patterson, Quarry and Foster were all good fighters but they were all a bit shopworn by the time Muhammad Ali fought them the second time around; Including Bob Foster.