Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder comes off the shelf ? this time all for himself

[Bob]

All the talk is about Wilder v Aj, never in heavyweight history have 2 so called champions reigned for so long without undes*****g.
I hope Wilder gets ktfo again.

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[Willow The Wisp]

Sure he wouldn’t , why would he ?
I'll watch him get sparked again
Bombsquad lmao

Not if Joshua mans up, you won't.

[lilacp]

I want to vomit every time I see a photo of Wilder doing his scream thing.

[Bennyleonard99]

A guaranteed loss for Joshua. For sure.

Nonsense. Wilder Haymon Finkel dodged AJ with their lies and excuses, they ran away from $120m plus offered by Hearn for two AJ fights and one patsy fight. Wilder team offered the phony $50m offer once but it was fake bluff, you know why? Because they never offered it again. Wilder is nothing, always was nothing. AJ eats that fraud alive.

[MulaKO]

Not if Joshua mans up, you won't.

Do you always cheer losers lmao

The icing would be if robotic AJ sparks him
Better dig deep to hide
I hope all three fugh nuts disappear ; AJ , Wilder and Fury

[Curtis2]

My only gripe is that this is PPV. This is not a PPV fight and neither can they say it's because of Wilder's name. Yeah, he's got a name, but he's coming off major losses. This should have been free. I'm intrigued either way to see how Wilder performs. He did psychedelics and it altered his mindset. Here's a guy that used to be knocking people out without regard to their well being, breaking down because he had just knocked someone out. Wilder's a tremendous heavyweight because of his power, and his ability to walk down bigger guys. He' a small heavyweight as far as weight goes. But he was never a skilled fighter. He relied mostly on his power. Let's see if he can add new wrinkles to his game.

Who the f**k made the decision to make this PPV? They deserve a job in the White House!! Lmfao-

[MulaKO]

Who the f**k made the decision to make this PPV? They deserve a job in the White House!! Lmfao-

Fughin crazy

Maybe the Wisp can show us his purchase slip for his crush on Donesquad

[Willow The Wisp]

Nonsense. Wilder Haymon Finkel dodged AJ with their lies and excuses, they ran away from $120m plus offered by Hearn for two AJ fights and one patsy fight. Wilder team offered the phony $50m offer once but it was fake bluff, you know why? Because they never offered it again. Wilder is nothing, always was nothing. AJ eats that fraud alive.

Well, That's going to be a debate for a very long time I'm afraid. I've seen many of their fights in person, I have a solid grip on assesing fighters, and my thoughts always centered around never giving much legitimacy to media blips regarding ongoing negotiations; believing that if geriatric Wladimir, late replacement opponent Ruiz and Daniel Dubois can fell you that hard, and in the case of the latter two, slay you outright; it wouldn't take more than a single shot from Wilder to do you worse. Joshua would get caught at least once by a guy who put Fury down hard again and again. It really is just a matter of styles, competencies and liabilities.
When fans say things like "Wilder is nothing, always was nothing", I know fairly quickly what I'm dealing with.
Sadly, it's too late now for us to find out.

[NihonJim]

Well, That's going to be a debate for a very long time I'm afraid. I've seen many of their fights in person, I have a solid grip on assesing fighters, and my thoughts always centered around never giving much legitimacy to media blips regarding ongoing negotiations; believing that if geriatric Wladimir, late replacement opponent Ruiz and Daniel Dubois can fell you that hard, and in the case of the latter two, slay you outright; it wouldn't take more than a single shot from Wilder to do you worse. Joshua would get caught at least once by a guy who put Fury down hard again and again. It really is just a matter of styles, competencies and liabilities.
When fans say things like "Wilder is nothing, always was nothing", I know fairly quickly what I'm dealing with.
Sadly, it's too late now for us to find out.

Wilder would have probably beaten AJ but Haymon and co (not wilder) DID swerve the fight.

It was for politics reasons not fear, Haymon was desperate to freeze hearn and matchroom out of the US market and wasn't prepared to take any risk that AJ beat Wilder. It was the same reason Luis Ortiz wasn't allowed to take the AJ fight for a career high payday because Haymon was not willing to risk AJ looking better than Wilder vs wilders best career win.

Haymon was trying to make wilder the big US heavyweight star and all decisions around his career were based on minimizing risk of that failing (which it eventually did because they underestimated fury)

[Willow The Wisp]

Do you always cheer losers lmao

The icing would be if robotic AJ sparks him
Better dig deep to hide
I hope all three fugh nuts disappear ; AJ , Wilder and Fury

Saying something like that, the question pops up, Are you a bigot or a Brit?


After all; Wilder was an Olympic medalist, made more defenses of his belt than anyone else in his era, scored more career knockouts than any other title holder of his era, earned a higher KO percent rate than any of his contemporaries, had a longer winning streak (43) than any other heavyweight title holder in history, save for Gene Tunney (47), Rocky Marciano (49), and Larry Holmes (48), and never, ever lost a fight against someone he didn't at least Draw with, until his featherduster decision loss to Joseph Parker, when Wilder was 38 years and 2 months old. To snap you out of your fan fog; Anthony Joshua is only 35 years and 8 months old TODAY!


Another 2 and a half years, Joshua will certainly be in position to lose to all manner of heavyweight with that glass jaw of his, I suspect. If he's even still around, which is doubtful.


Conversely; Deontay Wilder has fought 48 pro fights, lived in the top 3 in the Heavyweight Division for 7 years, and fought top ranked WBC opponents for a decade.


The fact that Joshua and perhaps several others in the era met a higher quality of opposition, factoring in the mid-career losses taken by them, is a single metric that doesn't come close to nullifying all the accolades that "The Bronze Bomber" can lay claim to.


Against the 100 best heavyweights of the 21st centrury, Wilder is 11-4-1 (10), which stacks up well against Tyson Fury's accomplishments, just 37 fights, going 10-2-1 (6), and Oleksandr Usyk's 23 total fights, just 7 of them at heavyweight; 6-0-0 (1); Joseph Parker with 39 fights, 11-3-0 (4), and the fragile Anthony Joshua, who's fought just 32 fights, and went 13-4-0 (10) against the top 100.


Top 100 of the 7,784 professional heavyweights who have campaigned in this timeframe represents the top 1.28469% of the men for whom a career in Kickboxing, MMA or BKFC was deemed inadequate, due to the comparatively low potential for wealth generation in the B-side combat sports.


So, people who really know boxing don't use the term "bum" when referring to those who earned title shots, even if those came against non-linear titleholders.


If fans like to root for Wilder, or Fury, Usyk, Wladimir Klitschko, Lennox Lewis, Zhilei Zhang, Anthony Joshua, Daniel Dubois, Joseph Parker, Vitali Klitschko, Andy Ruiz Jr., David Tua, Chris Byrd, Hasim Rahman or Luis Ortiz as being the best of the 21st century, they're welcome to do that, and shouldn't be ridiculed for it. They climbed what is arguably the tallest mountain in all of sports, and got very near the top. Even while being less than perfect.


Respect the athletes!