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  • TBud Rates Himself #2, Usyk P4P King, & Naoya #3

    beating Saul would elevate TBud back to p4p king

    Is TBud accurate?
    “[I’m] the Ring number three? How y’all rating me number three? Who rating me at number three? I gotta go talk to them. [Oleksandr] Usyk number one, he better be number one. Over Usyk? I’m not over Usyk, but I’m over Inoue.”​

  • #2
    I think it's reasonable to put Inoue, Usyk, and Crawford in the top 3 in any order, though I currently favor Inoue due to his activity.

    Their resumes are all beyond reproach (TBRB rankings used, secondary/interim world titles ignored)

    Terence Crawford:
    W vs #3 Ricky Burns UD 12 (fmr. WBO 130; reigning WBO 135; future WBA 140)
    W vs #7 Yuriorkis Gamboa TKO 9 (fmr. WBA/IBF 126)
    W vs #2 Raymundo Beltran UD 12 (future WBO 135)
    W vs #9 Thomas Dulorme TKO 6
    W vs #1 Viktor Postol UD 12 (reigning WBC 140)
    W vs #3 John Molina TKO 8
    W vs #9 Felix Diaz RTD 10 (Diaz ranked at 147, fight at 140)
    W vs #1 Julius Indongo KO 3 (reigning WBA/IBF 140)
    W vs #4 Jeff Horn TKO 9 (reigning WBO 147)
    W vs Amir Khan TKO 6 (fmr. WBA/IBF 140)
    W vs #10 Egidijus Kavaliauskas TKO 9
    W vs Kell Brook TKO 4 (fmr. IBF 147)
    W vs #4 Shawn Porter TKO 10 (fmr. IBF 147; WBC 147)
    W vs #9 David Avanesyan KO 6
    W vs #1 Errol Spence Jr. TKO 9 (reigning WBA/WBC/IBF 147)
    W vs #3 Israil Madrimov UD 12 (reigning WBA 154)

    Other notable victories: Breidis Prescott, Andrey Klimov, Dierry Jean, Hank Lundy, Jose Benavidez Jr

    14-0 vs top 10
    9-0 vs top 5
    4-0 vs #1 (or #2 if Crawford was #1)
    11-0 vs fighters that won a legitimate world title
    6-0 vs reigning world titlists
    3-0 in unification fights
    19-0 in world title fights
    6-0 in lineal world championship fights
    41-0-0-0 overall record, 31 KOs

    135: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBO
    140: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
    147: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
    154: WBA

    3 division lineal world champion
    2 division undisputed world champion
    4 division world titlist

    Notable achievements:
    -One of only nine men to be lineal champion in three weight classes (Fitzsimmons, Ross, Armstrong, Canzoneri, Leonard, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao)
    -One of only four men in the 3/4 belt eras to be undisputed in two weight classes (Holyfield [3 belt], Inoue, Usyk)

    Naoya Inoue:
    W vs #10 Ryoichi Taguchi UD 10 (ftr. WBA/IBF/Ring 108)
    W vs #1 Adrian Hernandez TKO 6 (fmr. and reigning WBC 108)
    W vs #1 Omar Narvaez KO 2 (fmr. WBO 112; reigning WBO 115)
    W vs #8 Kohei Kono TKO 6 (fmr. 2X WBA 112)
    W vs #5 Jamie McDonnell TKO 1 (fmr. IBF 118)
    W vs #5 Juan Carlos Payano KO 1 (fmr. WBA 118)
    W vs #6 Emmanuel Rodriguez KO 2 (reigning and ftr. IBF 118)
    W vs #4 Nonito Donaire UD 12 (fmr. IBF 112; WBC/WBO 118; WBO/IBF 122; WBA 126; WBO 122; reigning WBA 118; ftr. WBC 118)
    W vs #8 Jason Moloney KO 7 (future WBO 118)
    W vs #2 Nonito Donaire TKO 2 (fmr. IBF 112; WBC/WBO 118; WBO/IBF 122; WBA 126; WBO 122; WBA 118; reigning WBC 118)
    W vs #8 Paul Butler KO 11 (fmr. IBF 118; reigning WBO 118)
    W vs #1 Stephen Fulton TKO 8 (reigning WBC/WBO 122; ftr. WBC 126)
    W vs #2 Marlon Tapales KO 10 (fmr. WBO 118, reigning WBA/IBF 122)
    W vs #3 Luis Nery KO 6 (fmr. WBC 118; WBC 122)
    W vs TJ Doheny TKO 7 (fmr. IBF 122)
    W vs #5 Ramon Cardenas TKO 8

    Other notable victories: Petchbarngborn Kokietgym, Antonio Nieves, Michael Dasmarinas

    15-0 vs top 10
    10-0 vs top 5
    5-0 vs #1 (or #2 if Inoue was #1)
    15-0 vs fighters that won a legitimate world title
    8-0 vs reigning world titlists
    6-0 in unification fights
    23-0 in world title fights (not counting WBA Regular)
    7-0 in lineal world championship fights
    30-0-0-0 overall record, 27 KOs

    108: WBC
    112: (none)
    115: WBO
    118: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
    122: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed

    2 division lineal world champion
    2 division undisputed world champion
    4 division world titlist

    Notable achievement:
    One of only four men in the 3/4 belt eras to be undisputed in two weight classes (Holyfield [3 belt], Crawford, Usyk)

    Oleksandr Usyk:
    W vs #2 Krzysztof Glowacki UD 12 (reigning and future WBO cruiserweight)
    W vs #10 Marco Huck TKO 10 (fmr. WBO crusierweight)
    W vs #6 Mairis Briedis MD 12 (reigning WBC cruiserweight; future WBO cruiserweight; IBF/Ring/TBRB/lineal cruiserweight)
    W vs #2 Murat Gassiev UD 12 (reigning WBA/IBF cruiserweight)
    W vs Tony Bellew KO 8 (fmr. WBC cruiserweight)
    W vs #1 Anthony Joshua UD 12 (fmr. and reigning WBA/IBF/WBO heavyweight)
    W vs #2 Anthony Joshua SD 12 (fmr. 2X WBA/IBF/WBO heavyweight)
    W vs Daniel Dubois KO 9 (ftr. IBF heavyweight)
    W vs #1 Tyson Fury SD 12 (fmr. WBA/IBF/WBO/2X Ring/2X TBRB, reigning WBC/lineal heavyweight)
    W vs #1 Tyson Fury UD 12 (fmr 2X lineal/TBRB/Ring; WBC; WBO/WBA/IBF)


    Other notable victories: Thabiso Mchunu, Michael Hunter, Derek Chisora

    8-0 vs top 10
    6-0 vs top 5
    5-0 vs #1 (or #2 if Usyk was #1)
    10-0 vs fighters that won a legitimate world title
    5-0 vs reigning world titlists
    3-0 in unification fights
    12-0 in world title fights
    4-0 in lineal world championship fights
    23-0-0-0 overall record, 14 KOs

    Cruiserweight: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed
    Heavyweight: Lineal/TBRB, Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO undisputed (plus IBO)

    2 division lineal world champion
    2 division undisputed world champion
    2 division world titlist

    Notable achievement:
    -Usyk is 10-0 in his opponents' home countries and 5-0 on neutral ground, including 3-0 vs the A-side fighter in Saudi Arabia
    -One of only four men in the 3/4 belt eras to be undisputed in two weight classes (Holyfield [3 belt], Crawford, Inoue)​

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    • #3
      Originally posted by SouthpawRight View Post
      beating Saul would elevate TBud back to p4p king

      Is TBud accurate?
      Love Crawford but when was he ever P4P king?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Grandma Lover View Post

        Love Crawford but when was he ever P4P king?
        A lot of people had him #1 when he became a three division lineal king with the win over Spence.

        List of 3 division lineal champions in the history of boxing:
        Bob Fitzsimmons
        Tony Canzoneri
        Barney Ross
        Henry Armstrong
        Thomas Hearns
        Ray Leonard
        Oscar De La Hoya
        Floyd Mayweather Jr.
        Manny Pacquiao
        Terence Crawford

        Inoue will become the next to accomplish the feat if he can become lineal king at featherweight.

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        • #5
          Risks you take and resume means your no3 or 4. Beat Nel o and your no1
          Last edited by hugh grant; 06-16-2025, 06:55 AM.

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          • #6
            No top fighter should be bitchin' publicy about whether he should be rated #2 instead #3 in Ring magazine.

            So vain. Anyways he fights only once a year. And that one time, he barely beat a no name named Madrimov. That's why.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Smash
              bud says usyk is p4p1 & usyk says bud is p4p1

              both are friendly or even friends maybe
              Lol that's practically the ONLY reason Bud considers Usyk p4p#1. Normally, he'd say he's the best and even better than Pacquiao and belongs on the Mount Rushmore of boxing (if he beats Canelo)!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by famicommander View Post
                I think it's reasonable to put Inoue, Usyk, and Crawford in the top 3 in any order, though I currently favor Inoue due to his activity.

                Their resumes are all beyond reproach (TBRB rankings used, secondary/interim world titles ignored)

                Terence Crawford:
                W vs #3 Ricky Burns UD 12 (fmr. WBO 130; reigning WBO 135; future WBA 140)
                W vs #7 Yuriorkis Gamboa TKO 9 (fmr. WBA/IBF 126)
                W vs #2 Raymundo Beltran UD 12 (future WBO 135)
                W vs #9 Thomas Dulorme TKO 6
                W vs #1 Viktor Postol UD 12 (reigning WBC 140)
                W vs #3 John Molina TKO 8
                W vs #9 Felix Diaz RTD 10 (Diaz ranked at 147, fight at 140)
                W vs #1 Julius Indongo KO 3 (reigning WBA/IBF 140)
                W vs #4 Jeff Horn TKO 9 (reigning WBO 147)
                W vs Amir Khan TKO 6 (fmr. WBA/IBF 140)
                W vs #10 Egidijus Kavaliauskas TKO 9
                W vs Kell Brook TKO 4 (fmr. IBF 147)
                W vs #4 Shawn Porter TKO 10 (fmr. IBF 147; WBC 147)
                W vs #9 David Avanesyan KO 6
                W vs #1 Errol Spence Jr. TKO 9 (reigning WBA/WBC/IBF 147)
                W vs #3 Israil Madrimov UD 12 (reigning WBA 154)

                Other notable victories: Breidis Prescott, Andrey Klimov, Dierry Jean, Hank Lundy, Jose Benavidez Jr
                You love posting this, like it makes Bud's resume look any better. That list of names is less than stellar (I'm being nice), I don't care where they were ranked.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post

                  You love posting this, like it makes Bud's resume look any better. That list of names is less than stellar (I'm being nice), I don't care where they were ranked.
                  You are a sad fanboy. Sorry for whatever happened in your life to make you the way you are, but it's your own problem.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by famicommander View Post

                    You are a sad fanboy. Sorry for whatever happened in your life to make you the way you are, but it's your own problem.
                    That's rich. From the person that desperately tries to validate one of the absolute worst resumes for an ATG in the history of the sport every chance he gets.

                    Try as you may, you ain't polishing that turd.
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