Comments Thread For: Will Turki Alalshikh?s new policy improve the action of his fight cards?

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  • Moz_boxing
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    #11
    My claim is we have less exciting fights compared to the 60s until 2010 because boxers just lack skills, and two major skills in specific.

    First is the defensive part, you rarely see a good defensive fighter anymore that can defend by blocking, slipping, parrying, rolling, bobbing and weaving, staying in the pocket and firing back with shots like underrated guys like Mike McCallum or Salvador Sanchez, just to name two guys that some casual fans might not even know. Back in the day you could see these skills and defensive maneuvers, which allow you to transition between defense and offense effortlessly. Now we have people with either zero defense, like Joshua or Wilder for example or fighters just using illegal tactics as defense like Klitschko or Okolie or they're just jumping back every time a punch is thrown at them, which is my main issue with the most defensive fighters nowadays.

    Second problem: the pressure fighters who are now needed to catch these pure boxers (which is not a bad thing, the sport needs pure boxers) are just some mummies who plod forward not learning anything about how to cut off the ring and which skills are needed to do so. Being a pressure fighter doesn't mean you don't need good, fast feet with all the fundamentals of boxing footwork because if you lack these then you will never catch a guy with fast feet who wants to outbox you.

    Boxing is on a decline and people are not smart enough to understand why and in a decade or so we will have clown shows like bare-knuckle or slap fighting as the number one "combat sports"

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    • Goatintheboat
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      #12
      Turki pays but come on. If you win you should get a chance for title fights. Turkis control is too much. Time for an independent governing body

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      • kiaba360
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        #13
        I'm sure every other promoter agrees with Turki; he's verbalizing what all the others think but can't say. None of them want to promote boring match-ups and boxers whose style predicates on minimizing exchanges.


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        • champion4ever
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          #14
          I can understand Devin Haney’s ordeal. He was done dirty by a drug cheat. Who just so happened to be.hopped up on steroids and just simply refused to play by the rules.

          Had this never happened and Ryan Garcia fought Haney on an even and level playing field. Then none of this would have been an issue.

          However, I do understand Turki’s frustration though. If a fighter’s main objective is to just last the distance by simply refusing to win the fight; Then yes. it is an issue.

          It is not so much as running as it is moving. If a fighter is moving his hands a lot more than he is moving his feet then that is total acceptable.

          Which is why the sport is called boxing or the sweet science and not fighting. The reason being is that the main goal is to hit without getting hit.

          For example fighters like: Dmitry Bivol, Stephen Fulton and Caleb Plant epitomizes this style. It’s ok to move but throw punches that are accurate and in bunches as well.
          Last edited by champion4ever; 06-14-2025, 11:22 AM.

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          • CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart
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            #15
            The problem of boring fights can be easily solved by good matchmaking , don't book "runners and holders ".

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              #16
              Originally posted by Moz_boxing
              Turki has zero boxing knowledge and doesnt care about the fans or the sport. If he wants good fights and cares about what the fans want and the sport needs why did he not made Benavidez vs Canelo?? He puts on Scull vs Canelo and afterwards Crawford vs Canelo, allowing Canelo to fight a second fighter who jumps up two weight classes. Canelo is undisputed at 168 but since he won the undisputed title in 2021 he didnt fought any top 10 168 pounder let alone a top 5 or top 3 guy. Thats 3 years not fighting anybody while holding all belts hostage. Turki wants action packs fights but decides for Canelo vs Scull instead of Canelo vs Benavidez or Morrel and now he is crying. make it make sense

              Turki can't force Canelo to fight Benavidez or Morrell , no matter how much we would have liked it. They had moved up to 175 before Turki got involved with Canelo anyway.

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              • Coverdale
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                #17
                Originally posted by PNUT901
                The problem of boring fights can be easily solved by good matchmaking , don't book "runners and holders ".
                Yeah, prioritise good fights over sanctioning body belts. If the IBF wants to promote someone like Scull, leave them to it.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PNUT901


                  Turki can't force Canelo to fight Benavidez or Morrell , no matter how much we would have liked it. They had moved up to 175 before Turki got involved with Canelo anyway.
                  It's a four fight deal right? Let's see what happens after Crawford.

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                  • Moz_boxing
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by CPNUTKnockoutFreshMart


                    Turki can't force Canelo to fight Benavidez or Morrell , no matter how much we would have liked it. They had moved up to 175 before Turki got involved with Canelo anyway.
                    If he can't make Canelo fight the best guys he should simply not sign him and waste all that money. Take the money and give it to some fighters and exciting match ups that deserve it. And i know that Turki and Canelo got involved after both moved up but the problem is they moved up because Canelo denied them a shot and fought absolutely ridicilous opponents for more than 3 years straight and Turki still supports that clown show. All i'm saying is Turki has the money but don't know anything about the sport and does not care about the sport either

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