Is Fabio Wardley the new Deontay Wilder?

[FlatLine]

Huni was way ahead on the cards and exposing Wardley's limited boxing skills. Same thing happened to Wilder against Ortiz. But he saved himself from a loss with a one punch KO, just like Wilder. Wardley has limited boxing skills, but a game-changing right hand.

On top of that..

Wilder vs Stiverne was a 12 round decision. Rematch was a KO 1

Wardley vs Clarke was a 12 round decision. Rematch was KO 1

[hugh grant]

Yes he could be.

[dan_cov]

I don't think his power is as devastating but there are definitely a lot of similarities between the two especially in terms of limitations.

[famicommander]

You cannot compare a draw with Frazier Clarke to a UD win over Bermane Stiverne when Stiverne was the reigning WBC heavyweight champion and universally ranked in the top 4 (as high as #2) by the independent publications (TBRB, Ring, ESPN, etc).

Wilder mostly fought low level competition but the first fight with Stiverne was a legitimately good win. Just because it went the distance doesn't mean it doesn't count.

[FlatLine]

You cannot compare a draw with Frazier Clarke to a UD win over Bermane Stiverne when Stiverne was the reigning WBC heavyweight champion and universally ranked in the top 4 (as high as #2) by the independent publications (TBRB, Ring, ESPN, etc).

Wilder mostly fought low level competition but the first fight with Stiverne was a legitimately good win. Just because it went the distance doesn't mean it doesn't count.

There are fair comparisons to be made. For example Frazier Clarke is an Olympic Bronze Medalist - just like Deontay Wilder. Stiverne had some decent skills but was limited and never considered a Top 3 heavyweight. His title fight with Arreola was his best performance - but it was actually an immediate rematch, so he won a vacant title fighting a guy he already beat one fight earlier! Never defended the title successfully even once. He lost it to Wilder next fight.

Also in the rematch with Wilder, Stiverne had been inactive for nearly two years and was outta shape, 15 pounds heavier than the first fight. Frazier Clarke would have likely beaten that version of Stiverne. Would he beat any version of Stiverne, who knows.. but their levels probably aren't as disparate as some might think.

[famicommander]

There are fair comparisons to be made. For example Frazier Clarke is an Olympic Bronze Medalist - just like Deontay Wilder. Stiverne had some decent skills but was limited and never considered a Top 3 heavyweight. .

Yes, he was. Go ahead and look up the rankings from that time period. Just this statement makes the rest of your post ridiculous.

[FlatLine]

Yes, he was. Go ahead and look up the rankings from that time period. Just this statement makes the rest of your post ridiculous.

When I say he wasn't considered a Top 3 guy, I'm talking by hardcore boxing fans. No hardcore boxing fans thought Stiverne was Top 3 based on his actual skillset or his resume at the time. He looked impressive in the Arreola rematch, his world title fight, that was his best performance, but it was a rematch against a guy he already beat the fight earlier. Stiverne was showing promise with that performance but the fight turned out to be the highlight of his entire career, instead of being just the beginning of a world champion's journey.

[TheIronMike]

You cannot compare a draw with Frazier Clarke to a UD win over Bermane Stiverne when Stiverne was the reigning WBC heavyweight champion and universally ranked in the top 4 (as high as #2) by the independent publications (TBRB, Ring, ESPN, etc).

Wilder mostly fought low level competition but the first fight with Stiverne was a legitimately good win. Just because it went the distance doesn't mean it doesn't count.

The first Stiverne fight was Deontay's best boxing exhibition of fighting at distance

[famicommander]

The first Stiverne fight was Deontay's best boxing exhibition of fighting at distance

He had no choice, he hurt his hand in round 1 or 2 of that fight and didn't have the 1 hit quit bailout that served him well against Ortiz later on.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Yes he is. he is very limited and he will lose to the first good boxer with the power he faces.