Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua in talks for two-fight deal, Jared Anderson and Dillian Whyte 'discussed'

[kprestore]

Did you watch him against Dubois?

Bravery is not his problem.

You are correct but you can be brave and not have any dog in you. They are not the same. I give him credit for being brave for just getting in the ring. Look at his reaction once he gets caught with a good shot. Whether he is hurt or not he cannot push through. He appears to be content with just giving up. That is lack of having dog in him.

[Bob]

50m was real it was based on US fight. A UK fight won't generate that. Barry Hearn said himself he advised Eddie against it and glad they refused it. The 100m dazn was not a contract it was one meeting they had discussions. The dazn ceo said himself he kmew they messed up when they came out of the meeting as were new to it at that time. AJ team ducked wilder and fury. But you all believed eddies lies. Same when they claimed fury aj, eddie was in charge of making that fight for 5 months he claimed next week itll be confirmed and signed and it never was until wilder arbitration came along got him out of a hole as fury had to fight wilder and eddie was glad as he could not actually make fury aj. The saudis they were dealing with back then were skills challenge. They were not as connected to mbs as turki. Turki came in and took over as he has a direct line to mbs and the saudin wealth fund he is in charge of entertainment authority in the country that is why he can make these fights happen and quick

Thank god i didn't have to write all that, i can't believe these wilder haters/aj fanboys still exist. In 18 Aj did an interview whilst Eddie was throwing Wilder low balls for undesputed & said to Johnny Nelson "I won't be rushed into the Wilder fight" when asked when he said "19 20 21" then Eddie in a separate interview said "Wilder 2020 but maybe he'll loose by then".... The plan all along, least risk most reward milk milk milk.

[Boro]

Wlad AJ did about £7-8m gate at Wembley. If it did 1.5m buys at £20. That is about 30m. So it can generate $50m all together. Not just to pay 1 fighter.
You need to pay the fighters, the network also takes decent cut of the ppv buys etc

US ppvs are like 3-4x the price. They would have sold there a lot more. And UK fans still would have paid for it middle of the night in the UK. Ticket prices are also more in the US.

Facts are AJ asked for 50m and he turned down 50m. He got beat up in US by Ruiz and they never mentioned fighting in the US ever again

Wlad vs AJ generated $68M don't know what you're talking about with the $50M.... it was $40M in buys from the UK alone.

obviously you need to pay the fighters but neither of them are getting huge guarantees at the time they'd be getting it based on PPV performance.

There has been no point ever that PPV in America has been 4x the price.

The pound would have to be worth less than the dollar for that to ever be the case and that's never happened in history, it got damn close in 85 but...

Honestly I don't know why you are mentioning PPV prices in America or ticket prices.

Up until Wilder fought Fury he hadn't even sold out his hometown and was selling tickets for like £10 to his fights.

So truthfully Wilder offering $50M makes about as much sense as me offering it, he wasn't the one who would be generating the buzz or sales it's AJ...

[IronDanHamza]

You meaning a Hatton that was dragged up weight, was renowned for his yo-yo dieting and his drug and alcohol problems...

Er yeah, that Hatton. The same Hatton who was a belt holder at that "dragged up weight". Who was undefeated and the P4P #8 fighter in the world.

He also had no known drug problems at that point, you've just made that up.

Ortiz had just been bounced off the ring twice by Berto who is crap, himself another guy Floyd fought whilst he was on a comeback trail (literally fits the one or two fights criteria)....

Er yeah, again, Ortiz who's just beaten Berto who was ranked #2 at the time as a massive underdog to become the WBC Champion. That is what you're trying to consider "coming off a terrible performance"? What is this, opposite day?

All three of them meet the criteria but you're disingenuous like I said...

• Pacquiao - three fights removed from being stopped by Marquez.
• Cotto - three fights removed from being stopped by pac.
• Marquez - two fights removed from his loss to pac and dragged up in weight.
• De la Hoya - one fight removed from his loss to Hopkins.
• Sharmba Mitchell - one fight removed from his loss to Tszyu.

This is pretty much the tale of his career, I don't know why you're trying to deny this.

This is just comical So now if a fighter loses a fight at any point then it's a no go zone essentially. Believe it or not, fighters lose sometimes.

Pacquaio was the #2 P4P fighter in the world when Floyd fought him you dumb fuck Coming off wins over Vargas and Bradley, one being the Top 10 and the other being in the Top 3 at WW. He lost to Marquez, who was also a P4P fighter at the time, and bounced back. What a shocker! A fighter lost and bounced back! How could you possibly argue that Pacquaio was coming off a bad performance?

Miguel Cotto, same thing, lost to Pacquaio who was THE best fighter in the world at the time, and bounced back to come the #1 ranked Jr MW when Floyd fought him.

We can do this for literally any fighter. Let's do Pacquaio;

Fought Marquez in 2008 coming off a loss 2 years prior to Chris John then again in 2011 coming off a loss to Mayweather to 3 fights prior.
Fought Hatton coming off a KO loss to Mayweather
Fought Cotto 1 fight between getting battered by Margarto
Fought Morales after getting dominated by Zahir Raheem
Fought Mosley coming off a loss and draw to Mayweather and Mora
Fought Margarito coming off 1 right removed from getting battered and stopped by Mosley
Fought Oscar 1 fight removed from losing to Floyd

It's retarded.

What Floyd did is the opposite of what you're claiming;

Fought Hernandez when he was the #1 JLW in the world and on a 6 fight win streak
Fought Corrales when he was the #1 JLW in the world and was the P4P #5 fighter in the world.
Fought Castillo when he was the #1 LW in the world x2
Fought Mosley when he was the #1 WW in the world coming off a win over Margarito as the underdog
Fought Hatton when he was undefeated and P4P #8
Fought Ortiz when he was #2 WW and coming off a massive win as the underdog
Fought Canelo when he was #1 JMW and P4P #9
Fought Pacquaio when he was P4P #2 coming off 2 wins over Top 5-10 WW's
Fought Maidana coming off his massive upset win over Broner to win the WBA title

It's very rare he ever fought a fighter that wasn't coming off an impressive win or was highly ranked at the time they fought.

[SUBZER0ED]

They have zero confidence in him if those are the names hes going for. Honestly might as well just give Del Boy one final payday.

It's common for a fighter to take on a perceived soft touch after a devastating loss like Joshua suffered vs Dubois.

[El_Mero]

Pay attention, you're doing the same thing he did.

The onus is not on me to cite when something didn't happen, but the claimant to cite when it did. So since you seem to be concurring, perhaps you could answer the simple quesiton?

The claim is that Mayweather picked fighters "coming off an arguably bad performance".

When did Mayweather do that? List the fights.

Judah immediately comes to mind

Bruseles

Theres a few others too, need to go back

Not even the first clue what point you're attempting to make here.

Or even what you're trying to say.

Snoozers are bad performances, period....is the point. NOBODY likes that bs, then or now. Doesn't matter who won or lost. Barely any action = a dude fight

[Oldskoolg]

Young Edward needs his cash cow back after Ben got beaten. I’m sure there are plenty of muggins’ there to shell out for a knackered Joshua so that Hearn can continue to coin it in

[thack]

They swerved another icing with Dubios to keep the show on the road . Whyte is knackered and shot and they are hoping Anderson is still in shock after the brutal KO loss , we all know Joshua would have gone no where near him otherwise .Joshua will still sell but I would'nt waste a bean on him, there's much better fighters around , in fact 20 year old inexperienced Moses would properly hammer him....I'd heard Whyte is favourite for a Hughie Fury fight so they'll be n more 'live' one's for Joshua , actually Hughie would fit the bill.

[Boro]

Er yeah, that Hatton. The same Hatton who was a belt holder at that "dragged up weight". Who was undefeated and the P4P #8 fighter in the world.

He also had no known drug problems at that point, you've just made that up.



Er yeah, again, Ortiz who's just beaten Berto who was ranked #2 at the time as a massive underdog to become the WBC Champion. That is what you're trying to consider "coming off a terrible performance"? What is this, opposite day?



This is just comical So now if a fighter loses a fight at any point then it's a no go zone essentially. Believe it or not, fighters lose sometimes.

Pacquaio was the #2 P4P fighter in the world when Floyd fought him you dumb fuck Coming off wins over Vargas and Bradley, one being the Top 10 and the other being in the Top 3 at WW. He lost to Marquez, who was also a P4P fighter at the time, and bounced back. What a shocker! A fighter lost and bounced back! How could you possibly argue that Pacquaio was coming off a bad performance?

Miguel Cotto, same thing, lost to Pacquaio who was THE best fighter in the world at the time, and bounced back to come the #1 ranked Jr MW when Floyd fought him.

Hatton wasn't a belt holder at 47 he only fought there once before Floyd against Collazo you idiot...

Hatton had no known drug problems? laughable he was a big sniff head WTF are you talking about, just like Fury sniff and booze are his vices.

If you don't think Berto is shyte that's a you thing.

But Ortiz getting dropped twice and winning by the skin of his teeth is definitionally a terrible performance.

Who cares if he was #2 context matters, Bradley should've been stopped against Vargas if not for that ret@rded ref.

And shouldn't of had a second fight because we all know he didn't win the first...

And Brandon Rios had just lost to Mike Alvarado the fight before Pac...

The only "decent" win since being starched by Marquez was Algieri and that's a stretch if I do say so myself...

Like I said you're disingenuous as all hell.

Why would I do it for Pac, I couldn't careless about him, I'm comparing Furys shenanigans to Mayweathers.

Cotto's run of form since the loss to Pac was also Margarito coming off a loss, Mayorga need I say more and Yuri foreman...

[IronDanHamza]

Hatton wasn't a belt holder at 47 he only fought there once before Floyd against Collazo you idiot...

Er yeah, for Collazo's WBA belt you stupid cunt

Hatton had no known drug problems? laughable he was a big sniff head WTF are you talking about, just like Fury sniff and booze are his vices.

No, actually, he didn't. Not until post 2009. You just made that up.

If you don't think Berto is shyte that's a you thing.

Your revisionist history is cute. But in 2011 Andre Berto was the #2 WW in the world.

But Ortiz getting dropped twice and winning by the skin of his teeth is definitionally a terrible performance.

That has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever read

Ortiz, as a huge underdog, beating the #2 WW in the world, to become the WBC Champion you deem a "terrible performance"? That is hands down some the most blatant revisionist history I've ever heard in my life. At the time that was deemed a huge win.

Who cares if he was #2 context matters, Bradley should've been stopped against Vargas if not for that ret@rded ref.

Well, that's just straight retarded. i'd think you were trolling if I didn't know how dumb you are.

And Pacquaio beat both of them anyway, easily. Going into the fight with Floyd. So work that one out Batman.

And shouldn't of had a second fight because we all know he didn't win the first...

And Brandon Rios had just lost to Mike Alvarado the fight before Pac...

The only "decent" win since being starched by Marquez was Algieri and that's a stretch if I do say so myself...

So beating Vargas who was a Top 10 WW and Bradley who was the #3 WW are not decent wins? Are you alright?

Like I said you're disingenuous as all hell.

Why would I do it for Pac, I couldn't careless about him, I'm comparing Furys shenanigans to Mayweathers.

Cotto's run of form since the loss to Pac was also Margarito coming off a loss, Mayorga need I say more and Yuri foreman...

You can do it for ANY FIGHTER is the point. Even the likes of Pacquaio who has one of the greatest resumes of the modern era.

Name a fighter, you can do the exact same.

If the standard is losing a fuckin fight at some point of their career = terrible, then yeah.

You are talking utter shit. Quite literally revising history. Floyd throughout the majority of his career fought current Top 5 ranked fighters who were coming off impressive wins. I've just listed some of them. To say he fought fighters coming off "terrible performances" is legitimately the opposite of what happenened.