Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua in talks for two-fight deal, Jared Anderson and Dillian Whyte 'discussed'

[daggum]

Not getting into who rejected what AJ rejected 50 in that case. Either way for AJ, Wilder and Fury are still both the biggest fights. Yeah people will say pat their best etc (which they are) but times come where those fights are made and watch the hype build

That wasn't real though. It was literally an email and when they said send the contract wilder refused. That's actually evidence agaisnt wilder not for him because it shows he was bluffing. Joshua's 100 million contract was actually real and wilder said so. Wilder was just doing Public relations and credit to him it worked since people still post things like you just did even though it's based on a wilder lie

[IronDanHamza]

Hatton, Berto, Ortiz, De la Hoya, Judah I could keep going I can't be bothered there is plenty of other examples where they have a couple of nothing between fights so technically the were one or two fights removed from a terrible performance but that's semantics.

Just like AJ would be having now than fighting so he can take more damage and slow down because his style replies on explosiveness more than Furys...

But I know you're disingenuous that's why I couldn't be bothered in the first place

Ricky Hatton, you mean undefeated P4P #8? What arguably bad performance was he coming off?

Victor Ortiz? That one must be a mistake. He was coming off the best win of his career was #2 at WW and the WBC Champion.

Oscar De La Hoya was #3 at 154, again the WBC champion and coming off a KO of Mayorga.

Judah is the only (relevant) fight in Floyd’s entire career I’d say you’d have a point, coming off a loss to Baldomir. That fight only went ahead because they had a verbal agreement pre Baldomir. But still, fits the criteria (coming off an arguably bad performance) so there’s one.

So, you have one that actually fits your criteria. Any more you think you can add?

I see you’ve expanded it to “one or two nothing fights inbetween a terrible performance” can you name even one of those? I’d like to hear even just one example of that in Floyd’s career.

And no you “couldn’t be bothered” because you’re talking nonsense and something that’s objectively not true hence why on the third time of asking you’ve listed fights that don’t even fit the criteria. But go ahead, continue since there is “plenty”

[alicemia12]

Exciting to hear Joshua’s planning a two-fight deal—both Anderson and Whyte would bring serious heat. Negotiations like these remind me of landlord tenant law retail law—strategic, all about timing, and every clause can shift the whole outcome.

[Smash]

Exciting to hear Joshua’s planning a two-fight deal—both Anderson and Whyte would bring serious heat. Negotiations like these remind me of landlord tenant law retail law—strategic, all about timing, and every clause can shift the whole outcome.

lol bit of a stretch

[PRINCEKOOL]

Those two opponents are still solid fights 'Considering Anthony Joshua is coming back from a brutal loss. If one of those fights had to happen? I would make the fight against the domestic level American heavyweight. Stage that fight in America, and smash him up'.

Nobody can deny, that Anthony Joshua even from this vulnerable position is trying his upmost best to make fights with both Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder 'The simple truth is? Fury and Wilder have always been intimidated and incredibly weary of Joshua. Stylistically he is an extremely bad match up for both fighters, especially Tyson Fury'.

Note: I honestly believe that Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury 'Stylistically is a easier fight to prepare for and actually win than the Deontay Wilder fight. Even this version of Deontay Wilder in 2025. In order to beat Anthony Joshua an opponent needs serious power, and an aptitude for violence. If a fighter has those two attributes to a very high level, they may be out boxed for the large majority of the fight. But stylistically that is the style of fighter, who has historically always given Joshua is most trouble in his career'.

In reality the most physiological demanding fights Anthony Joshua has ever fought outside of Wladidmir Kiltschko are against Andy Ruiz Junior I and then Daniel Dubois I 'Joshua during his championship reign has beaten many Heavyweight fighters, who were technically skill for skill superior fighters than Ruiz Junior and Dubois. But those same fighters such as Joseph Parker, Alexander Povetkin, Kubret Pulev, did not really push him to the limits that Ruiz Junior I and Dubois did during their fights'.

Anthony Joshua's two fights vs Oleksandr Uysk I & II 'I would rate those fights, as technically skill for skill Joshua most demanding fights outside of Wladimir Kiltschko. But they were not really brutal fights, were Joshua sustained heavy structural damage. Especially the second fight, Anthony Joshua arguably inflicted more structural damage on Oleksandr Uysk II during their rematch. But of course Uysk was able to score more points, and accumulate the rounds over the distance'.

I have stated many times before, and immediately after Tyson Fury was beaten by Oleksandr Uysk for the second time 'That Tyson Fury will distance himself from Anthony Joshua. I stated that I would not be surprised if he retires, as a tactical move to avoid fighting Joshua. Essentially in my opinion, that was one of the main factors why Tyson Fury retired. Because he knows whether win or lose after fighting Oleksandr Uysk II, there would be a big demand for him to fight Joshua. And unlike years before? There would be very few political obstacles in his way to make to fight'.

To conclude: I think people need to acknowledge that Anthony Joshua is not a World Champion 'And if we are really honest? He is not even a top heavyweight contender, right now as we speak. But as soon as he achieves a solid win, then he will become a heavyweight contender once again. So it is crucial that Anthony Joshua gets a solid win on his resume for his comeback fight. I personally think the level of fight can be a bit higher; fighters such as Martin Bakole or Efe Ajagba are great fights to make. And stylistically they are match ups which I can envision Anthony Joshua winning in very impressive fashion, if he executes his best fight' etc.

[LG Motel 22]

As if he’d fight Anderson .. Whyte n Del boy at home would still sell and have a little intrigue. Joshua still loves the lights, he didn’t have to keep getting back up in the Dubois fight but he did.

[HoltHorror]

2 good fights for him. Neither should be much of a threat if he is not shot, but both will try to test if he is shot.

[Boxing 112]

That wasn't real though. It was literally an email and when they said send the contract wilder refused. That's actually evidence agaisnt wilder not for him because it shows he was bluffing. Joshua's 100 million contract was actually real and wilder said so. Wilder was just doing Public relations and credit to him it worked since people still post things like you just did even though it's based on a wilder lie

50m was real it was based on US fight. A UK fight won't generate that. Barry Hearn said himself he advised Eddie against it and glad they refused it. The 100m dazn was not a contract it was one meeting they had discussions. The dazn ceo said himself he kmew they messed up when they came out of the meeting as were new to it at that time. AJ team ducked wilder and fury. But you all believed eddies lies. Same when they claimed fury aj, eddie was in charge of making that fight for 5 months he claimed next week itll be confirmed and signed and it never was until wilder arbitration came along got him out of a hole as fury had to fight wilder and eddie was glad as he could not actually make fury aj. The saudis they were dealing with back then were skills challenge. They were not as connected to mbs as turki. Turki came in and took over as he has a direct line to mbs and the saudin wealth fund he is in charge of entertainment authority in the country that is why he can make these fights happen and quick

[Boxing 112]

Why wouldn't a UK fight generate $50m, let's not forget the pound is stronger than the dollar and AJ has done 1.83m PPV buys against Parker....

The fight with Wilder would've done over $50m easily in PPV alone and then the live gate on top and they've could've sold it as PPV in America as well, further proving $50m would've been easy enough to generate....

And if you really think Wilders team were offering $50m to Joshua you're insane, they only guaranteed Fury $3m and in the second fight $5M...

Wlad AJ did about £7-8m gate at Wembley. If it did 1.5m buys at £20. That is about 30m. So it can generate $50m all together. Not just to pay 1 fighter.
You need to pay the fighters, the network also takes decent cut of the ppv buys etc

US ppvs are like 3-4x the price. They would have sold there a lot more. And UK fans still would have paid for it middle of the night in the UK. Ticket prices are also more in the US.

Facts are AJ asked for 50m and he turned down 50m. He got beat up in US by Ruiz and they never mentioned fighting in the US ever again

[Willow The Wisp]

I see serving as a coming of age stepping stone for Moses Itauma in A.J.s future, should Fury discover that a decade as the real champion is enough for him, and Wilder discovers that enough is enough for him; both multi millionaires.