Essentially what anyone who is giving Pacquaio a chance vs Barrios is doing?
Basically making it a no win scenario for Pacquaio by acting like he should be beating these fighter so when he wins it’s like so what? But if he loses it’s like oh my god he should have won?
No thanks.
Pacquaio has no chance vs Tank and Jeff knows that full well.
im not talking about that fight.. I am talking about the constant diss, "Manny is one dimensional", etc.. then turning around saying Manny is floyd's best win. how is that supposed to be Floyd's best, if pac is one dimensional, doesn't know how to cut off the ring, etc?? and you wanna talk about being dishonest. saying pac is one dimensional is a lie in itself already! so that's being dishonest already.
and Manny would beat the living dog shiiet out of tank even at this stage. tank ain't a big guy so at 147 everything will be in Manny;s favor, even at 46. experience plays a big role. and you acting like pac been getting KO'd.. even against Ugas, x2 the size of Manny, pac did well given the short notice of opponent change, it's not like pac was training for Ugas and for him to still take the fight. I don't think tank can beat ugas at 147.
no, I think Jeff knows better than a lot of y'all on here, when it comes to boxing. like I said, why would Jeff need to lie for?
im not talking about that fight.. I am talking about the constant diss, "Manny is one dimensional", etc.. then turning around saying Manny is floyd's best win. how is that supposed to be Floyd's best, if pac is one dimensional, doesn't know how to cut off the ring, etc?? and you wanna talk about being dishonest. saying pac is one dimensional is a lie in itself already! so that's being dishonest already.
Who has said Pacquaio is one dimensional? No one in this thread. I can't say I can think of a poster on here who's said that.
and Manny would beat the living dog shiiet out of tank even at this stage. tank ain't a big guy so at 147 everything will be in Manny;s favor, even at 46. experience plays a big role. and you acting like pac been getting KO'd.. even against Ugas, x2 the size of Manny, pac did well given the short notice of opponent change, it's not like pac was training for Ugas and for him to still take the fight. I don't think tank can beat ugas at 147.
I mean, that's very optimistic of you and you're entitled to your opinion but you're not on this planet if you actually think Pacquaio doesn't get splattered by Tank at this moment in time.
Tank cannot lace Pacquaio's boots. He isn't even 10 levels beneath him, he's more. But Pacquaio is 46 years old.... Pacquaio cannot beat anyone that can box at a mediocre level. You aren't seeming to grasp that. You mention Ugas, that was 4 years ago, this isn't the same Pacquaio today that fought Ugas. And even that version was shot to pieces and sad to watch.
no, I think Jeff knows better than a lot of y'all on here, when it comes to boxing. like I said, why would Jeff need to lie for?
Why would he lie? Gee let me think, maybe because he's Floyd's uncle and has a very obvious bias toward him?
Jeff is literally doing what posters in this thread are doing for Barrios, putting Pacquaio in a no win situation. Pretending he isn't geriatric and shot to pieces and acting like he should be favoured to beat Tank so if by some miracle Pacquaio wins, he'll discredit the win and act like it was an easy fight anyway, then, when the reality happens and he inevitably loses he'll act like it's a big knock on Pacquaio because he was supposed to beat him.
Quite baffled you're not seeing that and are actually taking it as a positive thing for Pacquaio when it's overtly disingenuous and putting Pacquaio in a no win situation when in reality it's the opposite.
Last edited by IronDanHamza; 06-13-2025, 02:35 PM.
Who has said Pacquaio is one dimensional? No one in this thread. I can't say I can think of a poster on here who's said that.
I never said that it was in this thread!! I am speaking in general. don't act like the Floyd fans didnt diss Manny for years!!! and call him one dimensional! this ain't no lie.
I mean, that's very optimistic of you and you're entitled to your opinion but you're not on this planet if you actually think Pacquaio doesn't get splattered by Tank at this moment in time.
what makes you think that PAC will get "splattered" by tank? what do you see in Pac that makes you say this? Didn't tank basically quit and loss against Lamont?
Tank cannot lace Pacquaio's boots. He isn't even 10 levels beneath him, he's more. But Pacquaio is 46 years old.... Pacquaio cannot beat anyone that can box at a mediocre level. You aren't seeming to grasp that. You mention Ugas, that was 4 years ago, this isn't the same Pacquaio today that fought Ugas. And even that version was shot to pieces and sad to watch.
you are saying Ugas was 4 years ago, but you are basically "assuming" that PAC cant beat anyone that can box? base on what??? did the barrios fight happen already and Pac loss??? so you are just "assuming" without any actual facts!!!!!
Why would he lie? Gee let me think, maybe because he's Floyd's uncle and has a very obvious bias toward him?
but Floyd Sr doesn't lie and hype Manny up, isn't Floyd sr the father of Floyd???
Jeff is literally doing what posters in this thread are doing for Barrios, putting Pacquaio in a no win situation. Pretending he isn't geriatric and shot to pieces and acting like he should be favoured to beat Tank so if by some miracle Pacquaio wins, he'll discredit the win and act like it was an easy fight anyway, then, when the reality happens and he inevitably loses he'll act like it's a big knock on Pacquaio because he was supposed to beat him.
but why would Jeff need to lie for?? Jeff could have said the same thing you are saying here by giving Manny no shot, so why would he need to lie? because he knows the level of skills from Pac and the experience have the potential of beating Barrios. why is that so wrong? so are assuming that Manny is shot to shiiet and have no chance against anyone that can box!!!
Quite baffled you're not seeing that and are actually taking it as a positive thing for Pacquaio when it's overtly disingenuous and putting Pacquaio in a no win situation when in reality it's the opposite.
You are the one who is "assuming: with no actual facts!! wait until the barrios fight and if Manny lose, quit, etc... then you can come on here and tell me that. Until then, your opinion don't mean shiiet, just like how my opinion don't mean shiiet to you. so let's just wait until the fight.
You are the one who is "assuming: with no actual facts!! wait until the barrios fight and if Manny lose, quit, etc... then you can come on here and tell me that. Until then, your opinion don't mean shiiet, just like how my opinion don't mean shiiet to you. so let's just wait until the fight.
Of course it's just an opinion and we'll all find out July 19th after they fight.
I just find it fascinating that you think it's a positive thing that Jeff has said Pacquaio beats Tank and people should "take note" but then criticize Big Dunn for doing the same for saying Pacquaio will easily beat Barrios.
Both (in my opinion) are being quite overtly disingenuous so Pacquaio get's no credit either way from this fight(s).
But to touch on a few other things yeah I did see Tank take a knee vs Lamont Roach. I doubt Pacquaio would even see round 8 vs Roach.
You really are living in a dream world where Pacquaio isn't a geriatric old man. Last time he was in the ring he got beaten up by a kick boxer and looked like he had cement in his boxing boots. One of the fastest and most impressive feet I have ever seen in my life and that guy can no longer even move his feet.
You're asking me based on what? (That Pacquaio can't beat anyone that can box at a mediocre level) - (To clarify, I mean anyone who is ranked in the Top 20 at any division near him), What do I base that on?
I base that on the fact that he is a 46 year old man who hasn't won a pro boxing match in 6 years. The last time he did box he was beaten comfortably by a guy who couldn't lace his boots on his worst day in Ugas. The last time he was in a ring, he was beaten up by someone who isn't even a boxer.
That is what I base it on. I base it on the fact that over the decades I have watched boxing, there has never been a single case where a fighter has come back in their 40's (or even mid-late 30's) after a long lay off and a loss to someone not on their level to then jump straight back into the world title level and not get beaten badly.
So that.
Pacquaio is done dude. DONE. He's an old man and does not belong in a boxing ring. But again, we'll find out on July 19th.
There's nothing I'd love more than for Pacquaio to win this fight and go down as arguably the #1 ATG (if he does it). But, he's not going to.
Last edited by IronDanHamza; 06-14-2025, 12:21 PM.
I answered that already. It is a reflection of how little I think about Barrios.
You keep avoiding answering a direct question with word salad and questions.
You are using a ton of extra words when your argument is manny is fighting for money but is choosing to get beat up by a guy that isn’t the most lucrative option rather than choosing to get beat up by the most lucrative option?
That makes no sense.
The title has no bearing on the money- unless he wins and it sets up a more lucrative fight.
Of course it's just an opinion and we'll all find out July 19th after they fight.
I just find it fascinating that you think it's a positive thing that Jeff has said Pacquaio beats Tank and people should "take note" but then criticize Big Dunn for doing the same for saying Pacquaio will easily beat Barrios.
Both (in my opinion) are being quite overtly disingenuous so Pacquaio get's no credit either way from this fight(s).
But to touch on a few other things yeah I did see Tank take a knee vs Lamont Roach. I doubt Pacquaio would even see round 8 vs Roach.
You really are living in a dream world where Pacquaio isn't a geriatric old man. Last time he was in the ring he got beaten up by a kick boxer and looked like he had cement in his boxing boots. One of the fastest and most impressive feet I have ever seen in my life and that guy can no longer even move his feet.
You're asking me based on what? (That Pacquaio can't beat anyone that can box at a mediocre level) - (To clarify, I mean anyone who is ranked in the Top 20 at any division near him), What do I base that on?
I base that on the fact that he is a 46 year old man who hasn't won a pro boxing match in 6 years. The last time he did box he was beaten comfortably by a guy who couldn't lace his boots on his worst day in Ugas. The last time he was in a ring, he was beaten up by someone who isn't even a boxer.
That is what I base it on. I base it on the fact that over the decades I have watched boxing, there has never been a single case where a fighter has come back in their 40's (or even mid-late 30's) after a long lay off and a loss to someone not on their level to then jump straight back into the world title level and not get beaten badly.
So that.
Pacquaio is done dude. DONE. He's an old man and does not belong in a boxing ring. But again, we'll find out on July 19th.
There's nothing I'd love more than for Pacquaio to win this fight and go down as arguably the #1 ATG (if he does it). But, he's not going to.
big dunn has an agenda. big dunn wants manny to win so that it'll possibly set up a fight against boots in which dunn admit that he wants to see manny hurt and the boots fights will deliver that!!! did you not see that post from dunn?????? jeff doesnt give a damm about manny winning or losing or getting hurt. jeff is just speaking on how he feels. if jeff is only saying that according to you because he's floyd's uncle, then why did sr and roger never sugar coat manny to make manny look good then?? aint roger floyd's uncle also?? dunn already admit that he wants to see manny get hurt so how can anyone take anything from dunn serious when it comes to this???
big dunn has an agenda. big dunn wants manny to win so that it'll possibly set up a fight against boots in which dunn admit that he wants to see manny hurt and the boots fights will deliver that!!! did you not see that post from dunn?????? jeff doesnt give a damm about manny winning or losing or getting hurt. jeff is just speaking on how he feels. if jeff is only saying that according to you because he's floyd's uncle, then why did sr and roger never sugar coat manny to make manny look good then?? aint roger floyd's uncle also?? dunn already admit that he wants to see manny get hurt so how can anyone take anything from dunn serious when it comes to this???
How do you know that? You're just asserting that.
We don't know what Jeff's reason for picking Tank is. To me it's again quite overtly disingenuous because there's no way he actually believes that Pacquaio at this stage has any kind of real chance of not getting badly hurt by Tank. Unless he's deluded as well. But either way, neither are reasons to "take notes".
We don't know what Jeff's reason for picking Tank is. To me it's again quite overtly disingenuous because there's no way he actually believes that Pacquaio at this stage has any kind of real chance of not getting badly hurt by Tank. Unless he's deluded as well. But either way, neither are reasons to "take notes".
how do i know what??? big dunn already said it himself in the other thread!! big dunn did not provide any reasons as to why he think manny will win, where as for jeff, jeff said manny's experience alone will be the key to his victory over barrios... and big dunn first said pac has no chance against barrios, then big dunn changed his stance to now saying manny will win but offer nothing to back up why he feels that way. big dunn also then said when manny wins, they should set up a fight with manny vs boots, then he later admitted that he wants that match up because he wants to see manny get hurt! so how do you take someone like him serious??
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