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  • crimsonfalcon07
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    #21
    Originally posted by BlackRobb
    You will never see Leo or any other champ at 126 mention Espinoza.
    Espinoza is a literal tall order in the division. Gonna take a particular style to beat him. I would like to see him vs Ball or Fulton. Don't think Leo has what it takes, and Fulton already beat Leo once if memory serves.

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    • famicommander
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      #22
      Originally posted by letsbox10

      Gomboa was never the wba champ as Chris John was active the whole time. The last unified champ at 126 was Juan Manuel Márquez in 2003.
      Incorrect. Chris John was briefly stripped of the title due to a rib injury and declared champion-in-recess which elevated Gamboa, then John was later reinstated as Super Champion which relegated Gamboa back to secondary status.

      It's all horrible WBA nonsense and it doesn't truly matter but Gamboa was, albeit briefly, recognized as the sole WBA champion during the time which he was also the IBF champion. And then he got relegated back to secondary WBA status, and then he moved up to 130, then to 135.
      Last edited by famicommander; 05-24-2025, 12:32 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by kiaba360

        I wasn't critiquing Leo/Kameda (although I don't understand Leo's inactivity), but I am frustrated with the entire division. When was the last time a 126lb unification happened?
        All these guys want Inoue pay day and they all want to be undefeated until than ( except Fulton who already lost to Inoue).

        Well Inoue still has some work to do at 122. I also believe he will fight Nakatani at 122.

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          #24
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

          All these guys want Inoue pay day and they all want to be undefeated until than ( except Fulton who already lost to Inoue).

          Well Inoue still has some work to do at 122. I also believe he will fight Nakatani at 122.
          He has already said the plan is MJ at 122, then Ball at 126, then Nakatani at 122, and then 126 until he retires.

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            #25
            Originally posted by famicommander

            Incorrect. Chris John was briefly stripped of the title due to a rib injury and declared champion-in-recess which elevated Gamboa, then John was later reinstated as Super Champion which relegated Gamboa back to secondary status.

            It's all horrible WBA nonsense and it doesn't truly matter but Gamboa was, albeit briefly, recognized as the sole WBA champion during the time which he was also the IBF champion. And then he got relegated back to secondary WBA status, and then he moved up to 130, then to 135.
            Yes but that's wba and it's bull**** because Chris John was the recognized champ by the boxing world because he never vacated the title. And that why there hasn't been a true unified champ at 126 since Marquez.

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            • letsbox10
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              #26
              Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

              Espinoza is a literal tall order in the division. Gonna take a particular style to beat him. I would like to see him vs Ball or Fulton. Don't think Leo has what it takes, and Fulton already beat Leo once if memory serves.
              Fulton not only beat leo but schooled him 12-0.

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                #27
                Originally posted by famicommander

                He has already said the plan is MJ at 122, then Ball at 126, then Nakatani at 122, and then 126 until he retires.
                Once he moves up to 126, I don't see him coming back to 122. I believe he will fight Nakatani at 122, then Ball.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by letsbox10

                  Fulton not only beat leo but schooled him 12-0.
                  I remember the fight during the Pandemic. It was wide, but not 12-0. More like 9-3.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BlackRobb

                    I remember the fight during the Pandemic. It was wide, but not 12-0. More like 9-3.
                    You could say 9-3, 10-2, 11-1, but it also looked like 12-0 that's how dominate Fulton was.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BlackRobb

                      Once he moves up to 126, I don't see him coming back to 122. I believe he will fight Nakatani at 122, then Ball.
                      Yes but inoue is going up with his super bantamweight body and win a 126 title and with the same body come back down. Then beat junto and move back up.

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